No and no.

You win you finish top happy days.

We win we then have a chance to come top against Hull, don't kid yourself though a Wire win and all sorts of excuses will come out of the woodwork mark my words.

Trying to suggest a defeat for us would effect the play-offs is just silly.

Like it or not, the Warrington renaissance has been tarnished by an inabilty to deliver at the business end of the season. That may have been down to the Wembley distraction - something which may also affect Wigan. But that's my point. If Wire start slipping up again as we approach the tough stuff, then it won't look good.

Whatever happens at Wembley, Wigan will not be as well prepared for their next league match as normal. It's a great opportunity for you lot to win. But if you don't, well ...

And if we win what effect would that have on Wigan...?

Mean if it doesn't look good for us how would it look for you? unable to beat a Wire side without 3 key players, being the Champion side you are it shouldn't be a problem

whoever wins and finishes top or 2nd will still have to win 3 on the bounce to lift the GF Trophy. And unless you win your last game of the season you win nothing.

Oh dear... The point is we are half expecting to lose... Its the week after a cup final, any team would be vulnerable, and any good coach can dress it up as such... You would have no excuse for losing.

That was my point, but I suspect he's deliberately missing it.

Doesn't sound like the Wigan way? and didn't MM want to win all 3?

Excuses excuses

Dress it up whichever way you want Crunchy, your point about it effecting us and raising questions was poor and you know it.

Bookies have Wigan as favs to win the shield..

Gut feeling. I think we will (certainly to push you all the way).

Should we win at Wembley, I woulds expect something like the following: The lads to have a session on Saturday night in London and then be given Sunday & Monday off on holiday (no alcohol), then training Tuesday, which leaves Weds/Thurs/Fri and Saturday before the game on Sunday....easy enough time to recover.

Maguire will have the players chomping at the bit for the Wire game (regardless of the Wembley result), in days gone by under Noble then yes I would expect us to go in half baked, but not under MM.

1st or 2nd? You say Tomatoe, I say tomato. Doesn't matter really, the only difference is whether it's Hudds or Saints that get the 40 point treatment.

You plonker Rodney!!! I am giving a fans view, i'm sure that MM and the squad will be going for a win... You really are a spanner...!!!

So your not confident in your team and MM?