Weren't you the one who said we don't miss Hansen??

Maybe 3-4 years ago when he first arrived at Quins

I don't like fishing mate. Just trying to work out how much I value you're opinion.

Well refer to when I argued that Sam would be highly effective from FB, this was long before MM played him there.

I got stick last week for laughing at him being in several C&W England first choice 17s for the 4 Nations.

Painfully average and won't be at Wigan in three years time (if he makes it that long).

Let me get this straight - you're saying MM is the third best hooker in SL?

english one...yeah I think he is.

If Wane is coach I bet your wrong. He thinks the world of him.

As for me as i've said he's a good squad player. He's hard as nails and when on form he can get us moving in attack. He won't ever be a superstar but he brings certain qualities to a side that are very handy in big games.

His best game in a Wigan shirt came in a certain game at Old Trafford when he was the best hooker on the field. He was exceptional that night and played a huge part in winning the game for us in the first 20 minutes.

Good quality back up hooker.

+1

Where is this 'back up hooker' coming from? One starts and one comes on in spells they both do their fair share of minutes contributing/impacting on the game.

McM is far down the line of 'the best 9s' in SL let alone RL.

One thing out of that I would agree with is that he's not being used as a back up hooker as such and seems to have an even split with Leuluai when it comes to minutes.

We need to look at that imo. I don't think Tommy is getting enough minutes on the field at the minute.

It's obviously really, look at the team when Tommys on, then look at the team when McM is on. Are our performances effected? Yes, most people in here can see it. Yet people seem to excuse this drop in performance for two reasons, one, cos his defense is solid and two because he's a back up hooker.

Let's look at them two points:

Strong defense-excellent, but what about he doesn't complete the more necessary aspects of the 9 role? Which contribute to the drop in performance? Should they be overlooked cos he can tackle up? No

'Back up hooker?' Why when the time between the two 9 is roughly a 50:50 split? Just because Tommy starts first?