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| Quote: MattyB "I will let you go away and add up respective honours prior to the early nineties of full professionalism. It's more than one trophy sunshine.
Eleven teams have won more championships than Wire in the history of Rugby League. You know things are bad when the club add 'The Captain Morgan Trophy' to their honours list.'"
to be fair pal your arguing with a tit.
but you should have a look at the tat in your honours list before you laugh at the Captain morgan trophy..."Emergency War League Winners" etc read up what happened in the War and be embarrassed about claiming that title as an honour.
anyway looks like weve both been shocking tonight
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| Quote: DaveO "That is probably true but I did notice when we lost to Wire some people round me applaud Wire's play though much less enthusiastically
Giving the other team respect is one of the things that sets rl apart, but I'd argue that this is slightly undermined when, had that been another team, the fans would likely have reacted differently. In a way that could be considered quite patronising towards Catalans, although I don't think that was the intention! I just think there's a fine line between good sportsmanship and verging on patronising the other team.
All things consisted I was probably slightly hasty with the opening post having just watched an awful Wigan performance. Good sportsmanship and applauding good play are definitely plus points of rugby league! But it does make me chuckle that when Warrington outplayed us our fans didn't clap them en masse as they walked back to their positions. I'd guess a large factor in this would be the loud and noisy away support, or lack of for the dragons?
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| Quote: the flying biscuit "to be fair pal your arguing with a tit.
but you should have a look at the tat in your honours list before you laugh at the Captain morgan trophy..."Emergency War League Winners" etc read up what happened in the War and be embarrassed about claiming that title as an honour.
anyway looks like weve both been shocking tonight'"
I only mentioned 'The Captain Morgan Trophy' as my old boss (a wire fan) used to use it against me in jest...."Wiggin never won it"........ , some mid week tin pot comp in the 70's that was scrapped after one year.
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| Quote: MattyB "I only mentioned 'The Captain Morgan Trophy' as my old boss (a wire fan) used to use it against me in jest...."Wiggin never won it"........
I remember the days when both clubs used to keenly keep count of the number of Locker cup wins...a pre season Friendly like no other that one.
Was it John monie that ruined it by stating it was too tough and too many players were getting "injured" in it so he started playing A' teamers in it?
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| Quote: the flying biscuit "I remember the days when both clubs used to keenly keep count of the number of Locker cup wins...a pre season Friendly like no other that one.
Was it John monie that ruined it by stating it was too tough and too many players were getting "injured" in it so he started playing A' teamers in it?'"
Total opposite to Madge then. We have more injuries in training than on the field these days. Aparrently the squad go full pelt on each other in training I believe.......
.......maybe that's why we're knackered on match day?
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| Quote: Dave26 "Giving the other team respect is one of the things that sets rl apart, but I'd argue that this is slightly undermined when, had that been another team, the fans would likely have reacted differently. In a way that could be considered quite patronising towards Catalans, although I don't think that was the intention! I just think there's a fine line between good sportsmanship and verging on patronising the other team.'"
Don't think tonight was patronising at all. I think if anything because it wasn't Saints or Wire heads are clearer and so can actually recognise good play easier. That is not patronising.
Quote: Dave26 "All things consisted I was probably slightly hasty with the opening post having just watched an awful Wigan performance. Good sportsmanship and applauding good play are definitely plus points of rugby league! But it does make me chuckle that when Warrington outplayed us our fans didn't clap them en masse as they walked back to their positions. I'd guess a large factor in this would be the loud and noisy away support, or lack of for the dragons?'"
As I said before people round me did clap Wire good play if rather less enthusiastically. You can't just remove the rivalry but I really do not think it was patronising to Les Cats tonight. I am sure we have lost at home to them before and I was livid because it was close and felt hard done by for some reason but tonight they looked a very good side. Or was that Quinns....he said going senile/
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| I applauded, and it didn't make me cringe, or feel embarrassed. Why would it?
Catalans turned up, ripped us a new one, and deserved their round of applause.
Anyone who is uncomfortable with that needs to find a little self esteem.
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| Quote: Pemps "I always applaud a good try no matter who scores.'"
Agreed!well said that man! a pie who isn't an ignorant sod. Good on ya. Sounds like there is a few more of ya! I really remember that reverse pass by barrett to Flanders Who went 30 to score at HQ a few years back! Was worth the entrance fee alone. that tomkin try last week! Genius.
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| Quote: Odemwingie "Not to mention the amount of semi-finals and finals we have been in and we have only been outside the play-offs on 2 occasions.
Other fans pretend Wigan died as a force from 96 onwards. We are still in the top 4 teams over the last 15 years, if that is classed as failure then I can't wait to see real success again.'"
A bit Hypocritical mate as you bash others like Leeds and saints now you are champs. remember that the next time you are baggin Leeds and saints for making finals and semis. Let's see you be a bit more accountable in your posting
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| I found it cringeworthy.
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| I'll never ever clap the opposition onto the pitch, and will never clap when they score or at any other time during the game, WHY WOULD I?? I'm a Wigan supporter, why the hell would I want to give the opposition the drive and determination they get from hearing applause for them from the opposition fans, why the feck would I do that????
Couldn't believe that that happened last night, embarassing to me, and yes I am a bad loser, I hate losing at anything, I hate my team losing, the wife hates my side losing, because she knows how I'm going to be when I get home!
Clapping the opposition doesn't IMHO make our players play better, and that's what we should want, not helping give the opposition the impitus to score more against us!!!
Not happy!
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| Quote: MattyB "Indeed. I read an interview a couple of years ago of the CEO of Catalans. He stated that around 40% of their Merchandise is sold to opposition supporters when they visit the South of France for the game. Quite a lot of RL fans see Catalans as their 2nd Team, or at least a team you want to see do well. (I know I do when not playing Wigan), it's pleasing to see their home averages of neary 10k in only a few years of SL. In addition, it's great to see the club upgrading their ground as hopefully their attendances will increase and the game in France (and Barcelona hopefully) will continue to grow.'"
I get that. I would always cheer for them (when they don't play us of course)
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| Quote: Ged Byrne's Shammy "I'll never ever clap the opposition onto the pitch, and will never clap when they score or at any other time during the game, WHY WOULD I?? I'm a Wigan supporter, why the hell would I want to give the opposition the drive and determination they get from hearing applause for them from the opposition fans, why the feck would I do that????
Couldn't believe that that happened last night, embarassing to me, and yes I am a bad loser, I hate losing at anything, I hate my team losing, the wife hates my side losing, because she knows how I'm going to be when I get home!
Clapping the opposition doesn't IMHO make our players play better, and that's what we should want, not helping give the opposition the impitus to score more against us!!!
Not happy!
It's nothing about making our player play better though. It's about showing appreciation of the good rugby played by the Catalan side. They were superb last night, yes we were off our game, but the score flattered us rather than them.
IL said in the SS bar after the game that it was good that Wigan fans applauded Catalan and showed their appreciation for Catalans excellent display.
Their scrum half gave the best display I have seen from an opposing player in all the the years since we moved to the new stadium. When he was substituted in the final minutes he was thoroughly deserving of the applause he got.
I'm afraid our game is heading down the way of football, segregated supporters and no appreciation of the opposition.
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| Obviously not being a wigan fan i can't comment specifically about the wigan fans appluading the Dragons tries, however i know that in previous seasons if watching a game and it seemed as though the opposition were putting more effort than my team - and infact my team looked like putting in a bit more effort would kill them then yes i have applauded the opposition and i have done this more in irony showing my team that i applaud a team putting in the effort. If they can't be bothered turning up I can't be bothered applauding them. So maybe the applause was more of a "if you could be bothered this applause would be for you but you don't deserve it on tonights display"
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| Clapping a decent try is fair enough, most knowledgeable RL fans will have done this many times. Mass applause and even chanting for catalans as they got into their positions for the re-start was an absolute disgrace. Think how the players were feeling at this point, you could see how gutted Sam looked and there were others who put 100% into that game as well who didn't deserve that.
If you feel the need to boo, leave it until the end of the game. There were people booing when we still had a chance of coming back, maybe if the fans got behind the team at tough points in games then we would see a response. Our home support is dire and very fickle and thats probably why our home form is so poor, you can sense that the crowd are waiting for someone to make a mistake so they can have a good whinge.
Worst home support in the league!!
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