Jesus, you lot are blinkered. It appears to me that both Tomkins brothers have some sort of aversion to being tackled.

Is there a new rule about not being able to tackle S.Tomkins? The incident 2 mins before h-t, how on earth you get the penalthy there, I cant believe. First decent kick we do, ST had nowhere to go after gathering and flys into touch off the tackle, he couldnt do ewt else. Penalty to Wigan. Joke.

Then Yeaman hits Joel T fair and square, good tackle. 5 mins later they clash again, Tomkins doesnt like it, brawl time. Ganson should give both yellow. But getting the penalty wasnt enough for JT, oh no, has to go back again and prove himself, silly boy. Had to go. Worked out in your favour somehow, cos it woke you up.

I see you didn't go to the game, then.

Still can't believe we managed to win that game especially the way we played. I've seen a number of posts regarding Deacon & although I don't disagree we need a goal kicker and organiser on the field for longer our key problem is our defence. What has happened to it? Today Hull FC defended more like we did last season whereas we tried to hard to wrestle the players to the ground rather than going low and allowed the Hull men to twist and offload in the tackle. Add to this the yards Hull made on every carry in comparison to our own (they got over the half way line far easier than we did without the aid of penalties) which made them far deadlier on our own tryline. Wigan had numerous chances in attack to go in at half time comfortable but showed very little in attack.

Part of this is down to some of the injuries we have but there is no excuse for that defence. It needs sorting and soon

not even props, cowardly second rows elbow dropping onto half backs heads long after they've scored tries, its terrible.

When your next at the DW why dont you air your views to Joel about how he is cowardly, to his face?

Les Boyd?

Joe Walsh (not the guitarist with the Eagles) Alan Rathbone, great pillars of society.

Its just a good job for your lot that you managed to hit Sam a few times round the head, as last time we met before today he was given the freedom of the KC and your players were chasing him round for 80 minutes in a 46-0 win.

Belting that he scored the winning kick aswel

We were very average for 75% of the game.

Again Maguire doesn't choose cover on the bench. Obviously must be part of some master plan that I don't understand, as to my mind it's very foolish. PD is our only real attacking option with the kick. When he went off we were left with a guy who's best position is 9 and a Loose Forward in the 2 key positions in an RL side. And we wonder why we lacked cutting edge in attack?

Then again we showed great character in digging in and getting the 2 points. Good stuff.

Ganson was awful. No - beyond awful. I am still bemused by the location of the Hull penalty towards the end of the game.

I went and hes right, its a joke the protection you expect s.tomkins to get, why? and joel, dont get me started on him, what a joke, if those 2 are modern day rugby league players, its a worry, play acting and moaning at refs constantly, crying when they get tackled! wrong game tomkin bro's, bad for the game!

propably that 5th pucker pie you just ate fatty

I would'nt argue with that, whats your point?