Feel just like I did before Wembley 85, which banished the demons of the previous years of famine. (Know we won the John Player trophy in 83, but that didn't realy count)

First Wembley triumph since 65 - one I'd been too young to go to ( My Dad took my elder brother!). Did go in 66 as a 7 year old , then again in 70 - both heartbreaking losses to Saints and Castleford, then again in 84 - another loss in Joe Lydon's Widnes final.

85 was the turning point and paved the way for further triumphs, the dominance really started in 86-87 when we should have won the Grand Slam ( but for Paddy Kirwan's last minute try for Oldham we would have done, I'm sure), but we won every other trophy.

88 -95 we were unbeatable in the CC and won the league most years too. A fantastic time to be a Wigan supporter. Must be hard for youngsters to appreciate how great it was to be a Wigan supporter during that period when we have been so starved of success in the past 8 years.

So tomorrow could be the start of a similar period of success - probably imposible to emulate that period, but let's wait and see. I really hope so for all you loyal and fantastic younger supporters. You deserve it!

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Just one Main Question with regards to your post. If you are the Most Famous team in British RL, the most recognisable. Then WHY on earth would the RFL wish to keep you away from public attention by stopping you winning honours? I think you have been on the Conspiracy flakes for breakfast again.

Mean s the world to me im from haydock and now live round corner fron knowsley rd ,I work at pilks so you could imagine im out numberd 100 to about 5 ,I drink in what was Eddie cunninghams pub he s not long give it up ,I ve been very quiet on predicting the result because Saints has already won it So i keep getting told of many of them nearly every 1 of my mates support saints. So a Wigan win would really really help me in making hundreds of saints fans lifes a misery for a long time especialy on my facebook,work ,freinds

COME ON WIGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGAN

I agree it's illogical. Then again this IS the RFL we are talking about.

Flat caps and whippets 'n all.......

Or.... Maybe it's just not true?

Maybe...

But then again maybe it is.

I will throw you a starter for ten.

Communist Cap.

Originally introduced as a measure to stop clubs from overspending

Somewhere along the line morphed into a measure to "level the playing field"


Discuss.

Now Now

Been through this with you many, many times before. Just on one basic level. Warrington are now backed by a multi millionaire, surely if the RFL were so hell bent on stopping Wigan winning things, they'd have changed the rules to suit Warrington's new found wealth?

..........and back on topic..............

Wiganers on this thread, utterly hilarious.

Tomorrow is another Grand Final for St Helens, not some rebirth of a great club. Its terrific for Wigan to finally be back, that is obvious but dont try and proclaim that the entire game hates you and its the birth of an era of Wigan domination. It isnt. Its a 5th Grand Final in a row for Saints and its about time we win another. For Wigan its a welcome back. Its Sam Tomkins' first final and I expect he'll a hell of a lot more and hopefully against St Helens.

What tomorrow should herald is the welcoming of Wigan back to the top table and I do believe that certainly over next year and probably years following a serious and genuine rivalry between the 2 clubs. No more 75 - 0 for a while I dont think. Both clubs have dominated the sport over a large number of years and I suspect we will do for a good few more.

Why?
at the next level down Wigan have beaten you for the last three years which would suggest that Wigan have the better junior players coming through.

Both teams have made the final though haven't they? I think he is saying both teams will dominate.

Do you really believe that what happens at youth level is a real indicator of senior level ? It isnt.