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Quote: Arthur Warrior "Pryce has no chance of being picked if Roberts is fit, Richards is fit and Phelps rediscovers his form. His work rate is poor and when he runs the ball back from deep, my 75 year old mother-in-law could tackle him. He did well for Carmonts try and made one good tackle, but what else did he do. I hope he can prove to be a potent weapon for us but i still feels he is a long way short of where he should be.'"



Big call in my opinion. When Roberts returns I hope he takes the fullback shirt full time, both we as a team and he as a player seem to perform best when he is used at a specialist 1.

One Wing spot is sown up with Richards, so I would hope that the other wing spot is up for grabs with Goulding/Pryce/Phelps/Ainscough all fighting it out for a spot.

Phelps for me is the ex incumbent starting player who is now under most pressure to perform.

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I've said for i long time now that all pryce needs is a decent run in the side (10 games or so). The block hasn't really played for 3 years. I'd love a back 3 of Roberts, Pryce and Richards.

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The run of games is crucial to why Pryce is improving. Yesterday was only his 10th game for our first team.

That and the total w*ankers in the crowd have stopped booing him. The way he has been treated is sickening.

His tackle on Cudjoe yesterday was a game breaker.

He deserves to retain his place over anyone in the backs next week.

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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



I couldn't make the game because I was working but I am happy to eat my words and I'm really glad he is improving. I have never been ne of the boo boys though. I am still not convinced he is here for the long term though which disapoints me, if he leaves at the end of the season we could have used this time to bring players in who are here for the long term. However, we won't know untill he has a proper run I suppose. I would love to see some signs of him really using his size and strength to break tackles, Joel Tomkins style.

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For some unknown reason a number of so called fans are not happy unless they have at least one player to shoot down.

Discussion on a fans forum is fine, everyone is entitled to an oppinion. But when at a game everyone should get behind all players who don the cherry and white.

It ruined Mathers, Richards and Roberts could have gone the same way.

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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



Quote: Eastbourne Warrior "For some unknown reason a number of so called fans are not happy unless they have at least one player to shoot down.

Discussion on a fans forum is fine, everyone is entitled to an oppinion. But when at a game everyone should get behind all players who don the cherry and white.

It ruined Mathers, Richards and Roberts could have gone the same way.'"


Agreed.

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I've not seen many of the game recently, but from the highlights and what I keep seeing is that although Goulding keeps scoring, a lot of his tries are handed to him on a plate (not that i'm saying he's not playing well), apart from the one try which he made himself a lot of them seem to be putting the ball down in the corner rather than making game breaking plays. A couple of people on here have also said his defence is still a bit suspect, so i'd like to see Roberts in for Goulding and give Pryce an even longer stretch in the side, as he came up with 2 game breaking plays yesterday with the break for carmont and the tackle out wide.

Basically I think Goulding is playing well, but isn't going to get a lot better and is only ever going to be a stand-in sorta player for us, whereas I still think Pryce could turn in a very good SL player.

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What happens if Amos is fit for next week though?

We then have Amos at FB, with Pat + Goulding on the wings.

Where does KP fit in to that setup?

Don't get me wrong, I thought he did really well yesterday, and like you say, the run & pass plus the try-saver were excellent.

I'm just not sure what happens once Amos returns.

I have to say though - What a nice problem to have.

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Quote: Pie Eyed "What happens if Amos is fit for next week though?

We then have Amos at FB, with Pat + Goulding on the wings.

Where does KP fit in to that setup?

Don't get me wrong, I thought he did really well yesterday, and like you say, the run & pass plus the try-saver were excellent.

I'm just not sure what happens once Amos returns.

I have to say though - What a nice problem to have.'"


Goulding doesnt play, on yesterdays showing, Pryce deserves his place more.

That and Roberts wont be back.

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Quote: Pie Eyed "What happens if Amos is fit for next week though?

We then have Amos at FB, with Pat + Goulding on the wings.

Where does KP fit in to that setup?

Don't get me wrong, I thought he did really well yesterday, and like you say, the run & pass plus the try-saver were excellent.

I'm just not sure what happens once Amos returns.

I have to say though - What a nice problem to have.'"


That was my point, when Amos is fit again i'd like to see Pryce being given a run in the team ahead of Goulding. Goulding is good, not spectacular, but he does the job and does it well, very rarely is he going to break through the line or make a game changing tackle, KP has the potential to do these things more often, as well as finish all the tries that goulding has this year and provide more meaningful defence.

I think anyone who plays outside of Joel Tomkins this season is going to get a hatful of tries, much like it was on the opposite side when we had Hock.

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When Roberts does return I'd prefer to see him play right wing for at least the first game. That would give Pryce the left wing slot.
When Amos is match fit again then it's between him and Goulding for the right wing.
Interesting that in summing up players not much has been mentioned about us conceding four tries down our right side defence yesterday. Gleeson was missed big time.
How much responsibility was Goulding it's hard to say but I do feel that if Pryce had been playing right wing and those tries had gone in he would have been butchered on here.
He's doing ok, his break and off load for Carmont's try was superb.
The tackle by Pryce on Cudjoe when he took him into touch was vital and brought the house down in the Wigan seats with everyone on their feet cheering him. In the first half he came in and crash tackled, I think Lolesi, when they had an overlap.
He made a very good contribution v Huddersfield and deserves his place next week.

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Quote: Father Ted "When Roberts does return I'd prefer to see him play right wing for at least the first game. That would give Pryce the left wing slot.
When Amos is match fit again then it's between him and Goulding for the right wing.
Interesting that in summing up players not much has been mentioned about us conceding four tries down our right side defence yesterday. Gleeson was missed big time.
How much responsibility was Goulding it's hard to say but I do feel that if Pryce had been playing right wing and those tries had gone in he would have been butchered on here.
He's doing ok, his break and off load for Carmont's try was superb.
The tackle by Pryce on Cudjoe when he took him into touch was vital and brought the house down in the Wigan seats with everyone on their feet cheering him. In the first half he came in and crash tackled, I think Lolesi, when they had an overlap.
He made a very good contribution v Huddersfield and deserves his place next week.'"



I agree, i think marsh and goulding may get a rest next week. Phelps may be given a run at full back with gleeson at centre and paaat on the wing if not

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The idea of Pryce playing in a vital quarter final cup clash against Leeds would have had pretty much everybody on here in hysterics just 3 weeks ago.

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When Roberts returns he should come into the squad in his best position, which is fullback.
Since he may not be fit enough for the game against the Crusaders then Maguire has the choice between Goulding, Pryce and Phelps.
Goulding had his first poor game of the season yesterday, which isn't bad considering most players have had poor games at some point. It's harsh to drop someone based on just one game but with the competition in the squad it's the sort of decision that has to be made. Goulding seemed to get nervous facing the overlaps and cut out passes from Brough and Hodgson so I'd imagine Maguire will take him out of the side and let him know exactly what he needs to work on.

Pryce is having a decent run of games and deserves to keep his place. He didn't make too many mistakes and he showing great handling at times. He's also got size and strength which help him when he's attacking close to the line and defending his own line. The wing spot is Pryce's to lose at the moment.
That would leave a choice between Goulding and Phelps. If Maguire wants to give Phelps another chance he'd play him fullback with Pryce on the right wing. If Maguire wants to stick with Goulding it's likely to be the same backs except Gleeson in for Marsh.

If it was up to me I'd have Pryce on the right wing and Phelps back in at fullback. Phelps is probably due to be given another shot in the first team. We need to see whether Pryce can keep improving and whether he copes as well in the air and positions himself as well as Goulding has on the wing.

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Didnt really do anything apart from the pass to Carmont.
The Goulding/Marsh partnership was awful defensively.

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