OMG, I nearly fell of my chair laughing at this. Sean Long for all of his career has been the one person you want in your team when the going gets tough. I know you wiganers dont like him because a. You let him go, B. Him and his mates had a free holiday curtesy of wigan and their brown envelope and C. Hes better than any player youve had for the past 10 years, but to say hes never been good when the going gets tough is absolutely laughable! Not withstanding the amount of times he got Saints out of the crap when all looked lost, but remember Sydney? The game where Subway stu ran his mouth in the press about what he was going to do to Mason, only to get decked? Yes, that game, when mason smashed Long into next week. Well long didnt go crying back to the changing rooms, he picked himself up, dusted himself down and singlehandely dragged england to a famous win, while subway stu, the feared leader of the pack, was sat wondering what day it was,

Then got ed and went home, handing the series to australia

Dont think you were at the game last night Long was a mouse after getting some big hits put on him.

Seriously, I understand he used to play for Saints and alot of you aren't fans of him but that is about the most clueless thing I've ever read on these forums.

I agree with what alot on here are saying, Long would have done a better job than Deacon for Wigan but I don't think what has gone before whould ever have made that possible. Still, you don't seem to be doing too badly without him and Good Friday should be a belter.

hes been a thorn in wigans side for most of his career. I cant stand him. but you have to give it to the guy he has been a good un and will continue to cause problems for teams until the day he retires

My ,My - touchy aren't we? I dont deny that Long has some talent but I believe that he has played behind a decent pack for most of his career and when the pack is out performed and he is more vulnerable he does not function. He is obviously now in the twilight of his career and whilst he will no doubt continue to cause problems the fact remains that he needs some protection to really perform well. Saints obviously thought it was time to move on otherwise they would have retained him as they have Cunningham.

we wanted to retain him

Scrum halves tend to do that, didn't ya know? If the pack is bollox, chances are the scrum half won't be able to do their job very well.


Saints offered him a one year contract, just as they have done to Cunningham for the last three years (and we did to Gilmour too) but he didn't want one. He wanted a two year contract and Saints don't offer two year contracts to their over 30s. They offer one year contracts. So it was his decision for him to go, not ours.

I personally can't stand Long, and like many other Wigan fan's are dislike for him clouds are view of him. We therefore naturally have to say he sucks balls and he's a crap player. But deep down in side as much as it pains me to say it, he was a fantastic player who brought great success to St Helens.

But like Saints at present, Long is steadily going down hill.

I don't agree with that at all!! No way! Long goes missing when game gets tough must be a joke. Long has had teams week in, week out over the last ten years targeting him and trying to put him off his game, it's clear it don't work as he's been best scrumhalf to play super league.

Fair enough he may be marked out of games through good defence but longy can handle the rough stuff, without a doubt.

He's as tough as they come.

He is a very lucky player. Always seems to score against us the bugger!

Was quiet tonight though. We did a good job on him. Close the space around him and shut him out the game. Shame we didn't do the same to Richard Horne who looked very good tonight. I've never rated him until tonight. Good performance from him.

While your correct that long has talent, the rest is utter crap. The best halfbacks in the world struggle behind a beaten pack. That's why it's so important the pack gets on top to provide the halfbacks with the platform to work.

Longy is at the end of his time as a top player now and IMO saints was correct to only offer one year deal but on his day he is still best scrumhalf in super league.

The biggest match winner i've seen and a born winner.