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Was the "fan" who challenged IL tonight the same person who asked IL at the last forum meeting what IL would do differently if he had the chance?

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Quote: cherrywarrior "Yeah but we're still loosing money! That cant be good for any club!'"


Yeah but it's been pointed out that loss is a significant reduction on what we lost the year before. You need to put it into context.

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Quote: cherrywarrior "Yeah but we're still loosing money! That cant be good for any club!'"


a lot of SL clubs are making losses

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Quote: cherrywarrior "Yeah but we're still loosing money! That cant be good for any club!'"



You dont make finals you dont get profit in this league

Do you believe saints would be in profit if they didnt make final after final each season. NO

They be worse off than most with there averages

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Good to see the attitude of the club regarding bringing on the youngsters and not going for mercenary signings. This was always the way IL said we would operate and its good that he is sticking to it. Not really bothered that we have no signings for next year as its better to stick with what we have than sign anyone just for the sake of doing so.

I definitely agree with IL about the attitude of some people to our players. I have been defending various players that have been the target of undue criticism myself. I think that sadly some people just decide that they don't like a player and after that nothing will stop them sniping at said player. It isn't just on forums either, there are a group of about 5 that sit behind me in the Boston stand who turn up to every game and just slag off the players, and then there are the sort of idiots that jeered at Pryce when he got injured. If that's their idea of support we're better off without them.

Regarding the coaching situation I do have a concern over when the cut off point comes for the decision to be made. IMO if we don't have someone sorted to replace Noble by now (or at the latest after our last game this season) then I'd rather see us give him the deal for next year now so that we do have a definite coach in place for next year. I can only think that we are currently negotiating with a candidate and that either said candidate or Noble will be in charge next year dependant on those negotiations.

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Didn't go but a few concerns I have:

If Feka Paleaasina is one of the players taking up a significant chunk of the cap it's IL's fault? Wasn't he the one who extended his contract?

Also didn't he slate the players last year publically in the press - but we're getting slated (on an independant site) for criticisms of Richie Mathers and Karl Pryce?

We don't have the space for overseas recruits but yet IL comes out in the press and says I have been to Australia looking at this player and that player?

Contradiction at it's best or have I misunderstood it all?

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Quote: cherrywarrior "Yeah but we're still loosing money! That cant be good for any club!'"


It's nothing new, I don't think Wigan have made profit in decades, if at all.
Look at the figures below, scares the hell out of me to think what pre2007 was like with ML & DW at the helm.

Think the numbers below are correct

2007 - £330,000 Loss
2008 - £320,000 Loss
2009 - £150,000 Projected Loss, based on worst case scenario (no wembley appearance)

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Quote: wigan_knight "You dont make finals you dont get profit in this league

Do you believe saints would be in profit if they didnt make final after final each season. NO

They be worse of when most with there averages'"


When did Saints last make a profit?

I asked on their "board" how much they have lost last season.

No answers. icon_rolleyes.gif

Saints haven't made a profit in years.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "When did Saints last make a profit?

I asked on their "board" how much they have lost last season.

No answers.

Maybe i listen to my saints friend to much icon_lol.gif

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Quote: wigan_knight "Maybe i listen to my saints friend to much
No you just don't ask the right questions. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: wigan_knight "You dont make finals you dont get profit in this league Do you believe saints would be in profit if they didnt make final after final each season. NO They be worse off than most with there averages'"
i think only leeds and possibly hull are the only profitable clubs. Despite 2 final appearences saints lost about £350k last year. Knowsley road is killing us financially.

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Quote: MattyB "It's nothing new, I don't think Wigan have made profit in decades, if at all.
Look at the figures below, scares the hell out of me to think what pre2007 was like with ML & DW at the helm.

Think the numbers below are correct

2007 - £330,000 Loss
2008 - £320,000 Loss
2009 - £150,000 Projected Loss, based on worst case scenario (no wembley appearance)'"


£684k in 2007. Haven't seen 2008's figures yet. Not checked to see if they have been filed.

Was the £150k loss he mentioned the estimated loss for the year to 30 November 2009 or the actual loss for the year ended 30 November 2008?

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