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For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.
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| Quote: Wigan/Leeds Andy "Not that I'm suggesting he does it anywhere else but don't you think that might be because he lives in Yorkshire?'"
No,
Talk to any player who plays with or against him.
Have YOU heard different?
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| Fielden has been stealing a living for the past two years, he doesnt want to play for Wigan and openly slates Wigan fans whenever interviewed on TV, he came to Wigan for the dosh and is happy to bank the money on the back of cowardly performances, i hope for everyones sake he is loaned out to another club next year even if we have to pay 70% of his wages, at least the other 30% could be used to sign a prop with a bit of heart.
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3076_1671446335.jpg SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS
For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.
Wigan had eight in a row
Saints have five in a row:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_3076.jpg |
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| Quote: Babyface Finlayson "Fielden has been stealing a living for the past two years, he doesnt want to play for Wigan and openly slates Wigan fans whenever interviewed on TV, he came to Wigan for the dosh and is happy to bank the money on the back of cowardly performances, i hope for everyones sake he is loaned out to another club next year even if we have to pay 70% of his wages, at least the other 30% could be used to sign a prop with a bit of heart.'"
With posts like yours is it any wonder?
Look at the stats I posted earlier then tell me why in your opinion he is not the top prop at Wigan.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "With posts like yours is it any wonder?
Look at the stats I posted earlier then tell me why in your opinion he is not the top prop at Wigan.'"
I dont care for your stats, he has been rubbish for two years and gets knocked around like a rag doll every game, the best paid player in SL should at least show a little heart and fight, unfortunatly he would struggle to fight his way out of a paper bag.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "No,
Talk to any player who plays with or against him.
Have YOU heard different?'"
You need to stop getting your knickers in twist. The Yorkshire comment was obviously because you mentioned him not being found laying in a gutter in King St. That might be because he lives about 70 miles away.
I'll post the qualifying statement I did last time again, hopefully this time you'll read it before pulling your handbag out - "Not that I'm suggesting he does it anywhere else".
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3076_1671446335.jpg SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS
For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.
Wigan had eight in a row
Saints have five in a row:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_3076.jpg |
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| Quote: Babyface Finlayson "I dont care for your stats, he has been rubbish for two years and gets knocked around like a rag doll every game, the best paid player in SL should at least show a little heart and fight, unfortunatly he would struggle to fight his way out of a paper bag.'"
Obviously not, because it doesn't fit your agenda.
Who is the top prop at Wigan and why?
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "Obviously not, because it doesn't fit your agenda.
Who is the top prop at Wigan and why?'"
Agenda?? you mean i see Fielden for the washed up player he is!
Wigans top prop this year has been Coley followed closely by Feka with a fit Prescott in third, Fielden has been a passenger once again, he is scared of runnning the ball in, not a great trait for a prop to have.
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| Stuart is a solid hard working prop - but he is hamstrung by the mega salary he is paid, it puts a huge amount of pressure on him and its affected his game. However, Maurice offered him the cash - its not his fault - so people should get off his back. He will definately leave Wigan at the end of 2010 and probably play better at somewhere like Wakefield or Huddersfield on half the money.
Overall, yes I do believe he has been a disappointment in terms of value for money, but he has a great opportunity in what might possibly be the last big opportunity of his career against Warrington in two weeks and I really hope he has a stormer and takes us to Wembley.
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| I dont think he should retire. Stuart is a good player that is struggling for form. For whatever reason I have no idea, and I don't think Stuart does either otherwise he would be able to fix it. I don't believe that getting knocked out by Mason had anything to do with his dip in form or confidence though. Partly I think Stu is trying to play the role of a barnstormer like he did at Bulls, but he always had another 3 quality props around him in thos days and a lot of the time he cam on after 20 minutes when the opposition had been softened up. He's probably trying to hard to live up to his price tag aswell when he shouldn't, it wasn't him that put that value on his head. I reckon he should relax a bit and not put so much pressure on him self, he often looks really frustrated. Just concentrate on running hard and making the tackles Stu and I'm sure it'll come back.
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| Quote: dany1979 "When Wigan first signed Fielden during that terrible period i was delighted to have him in the squad and although he never quite lived up to his reputation as one the countries top enforcers there have definatley been plenty of games where he has made a difference and im sure that just his presence on the field and in training would of helped our younger players, particularly the likes of Eamon O'Carrol and Paul Prescott amongst others.
However there have been many games last season and particularly this season where despite his best efforts he has struggled to make a positive impact and forgive me if i seem unappreciative of some of his better games because i am not. Even in the win over Bradford there were moments when i felt sorry for him as he struggled to keep possesion of the ball and in a tight game he is one of the last people i want to see take the ball up in the final few minutes of the game.
Do you think that Fielden should consider early retirement or am i going over the top?'"
Over the top for me, we need him simply for the shirt. We are a little thin on the ground and him retiring now would be a massive upset for us.
I feel for Fielden, he never seemed the same since Mason copped him one, I haven't seen him shake a fist since. I think he places a lot of responsibility on his own head really, thinking he's got to lead the pack because of the money he is on or because he is one of the senier props.
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| Not time to refire but maybe a change of clubs would suit all parties.
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| It's hard to know where to start with Fielden tbh.
His form for Wigan at the moment is ok i suppose by anyones standards but by his own it's pathetic. He looks uninterested and not up for the fight yet still makes enough metres to keep him in that second group of superleague prop forwards like Leuluai, Griffin, Fozzard, Coley etc(the likes of Peacock, Morley,Graham being the top group).
That though isn't good enough for the money we're paying out but theres nothing we can do about it until he's off contract at the end of next season.
The worrying thing for me about Fielden is that since Hocks suspension the rest of the side has upped their games and intensity whereas Fieldens has dropped off
The forwards had a team huddle in the warm up before the Leeds game and he didn't get involved, he just stood at the back on his own. Thats not a good sign.
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| A year/period out of the game might do him well tbh
Let him assess what he wants to do and if he wants another shot he's got time on his side. Bulk up, let niggles recover, he only looks half the mass he was at bradford.
I feel sorry for the bloke and thats from a Wire fan.
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| Quote: Dico "A year/period out of the game might do him well tbh
Let him assess what he wants to do and if he wants another shot he's got time on his side. Bulk up, let niggles recover, he only looks half the mass he was at bradford.
I feel sorry for the bloke and thats from a Wire fan.'"
I don't think he will bulk up though which is a problem.
I remember at the end of his first half season with us he did an interview on the Wigan website after he'd pulled out of GB duty to have an operation. He said Noble had told him to have it, have a good rest and to put his feet up and eat some junk food but Fielden said he respected his body to much to do that and wouldn't waste all the work he'd put in over the years.
I got the feeling he's a fitness fanatic who does everything by the book and wouldn't let himself put a couple of stone on.
Adding some bulk would really help his game imo.
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| Rogues Gallery you seem obsessed with the SL stats site. You are also very selective about the stats you highlight and who you compare.
Quote: "Now those stats suggest to me that he is still our best ALLROUND prop particularly defensively around the ruck.'"
For his supposed defensive quality why does Fielden miss 41 tackles which is more than any other Wigan prop, 11 more than Coley. More important than pure statistics is whether or not a player dominates the ball carrier and 'hurts' him. Fielden does not hurt opposition players with his tackling. It would be intersting to see how many times Fielden is the main tackler as opposed to be second or third tackler in which highlights the folly or relying on statistics.
We then look at attack where Fielden is the weakest Wigan prop with no clean breaks and very few offloads. The tackle bust stat is a ludicrous stat.
Fans know what they see.
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