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God knows what happened with that post!!

As usual Jack you change things again.


Here's what you said.


I merely pointed out that he wasn't.

Unless you are very young, which I don't believe you are you must have seen far worse players than Smith play at Wigan.

Paul Koli, Mark Reber etc.

I said, as you have repeated, that he is ONE of the worst players I have seen at Wigan.

Are you having trouble even understanding what you are posting?

Neither Koloi, nor Reber came with the reputation that Smith did, so the disappointment was not as great.

Please try to keep up.

Again, you change things.
Now it's his reputation.

There are a lot worse players than Tim Smith that have played for Wigan.

Do you agree?

A simple yes or no will do.

There have been far worse players than Smith in recent years.

That is a depressing thought because Smith isn't a very good player. He's very good at passing - when on form - but not very good at tackling or running at the line.

I can't believe anyone would refer to him and Andy Gregory in the same sentence, unless its to point out how much Smith needs to improve to be a great player.

I repeat, yet again, Smith is ONE of the worst players I have ever seen at Wigan.

Nowhere have I stated that he is THE worst player I have ever seen at Wigan.

I will state now for the cheap seats that my views on Smith do not in any way prejudice what my views might be on any other poor player that Wigan have had in the last 30 years.

Is this clear to you now?

I have not changed anything, in any of my posts since I claimed that Smith was ONE of the worst players I have ever seen at Wigan.

I truly do hope you wake up enough to understand this stance.

thank you.

I take that as a yes then?

You can take it as whatever you like, as you don't seem to be able to make sense of a simple statement.

Tim Smith is ONE of the worst players that I have ever seen at Wigan.

Where does it say that he is THE worst player ever to play for Wigan? Where does it say that there are no worse players ever to have played for Wigan?

I'm sorry, but I fail to see how I could have been any clearer.

But surely that depends on HOW many you are comparing him against.

10, 20, 50, 100.

As I said I can name 20 worse players than Tim Smith who have played for Wigan.

But I also don't believe he has been one of our better ones.

Rogues. Why are you making such a big deal out of it. He said ONE of, to which you replied Tim Smith wasnt the worst player to play for wigan, but Jack never said that. Stop getting your knickers in a twist

When watching Smith you could see ever so faint sparks of a great player, however those sparks were few and far between, plus his defensive frailties particularaly in the early games of the season were nothing short of shocking. As for hiding his defensive weaknesses I though Gleeson did a good job of it, but in the end the guy didn't do enough offensively to warrant being in the team. I for one will be very interested to see how he goes in the NRL next year, and whether he improves in all area's.

Are people actually arguing in here about people's opinions on a player? Never seen that before!!

If it's someone opinion, it's simply that, how can that be an argument?

I agree. How people can try and defend his performances this season I will never know. Defensively he is the worst RL player I have ever seen. Yes in attack he has a good pass but thats about it. However even at this his good pass is nullified due to the fact that he has no running game at all, and an average kicking game, which thus makes him very predictable. Hopefully after what has happened with Smith, Mathers and Pryce, Lenegan will finally realise that these cheap risky signings are precisely that for a reason.

I LIKED HIM.....