FORUMS FORUMS



  
FORUMS > Wigan Warriors > Myler rejects longer Salford deal
183 posts in 13 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, DaveO , Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy , Pemps
RankPostsTeam
International Board Member3781No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200322 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2014Sep 2013LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Myler isnt the answer for us - let Wire have him.

EHW
RankPostsTeam
Club Owner8627
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 200321 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2020Feb 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: NickyKiss "I'd be very suprised if Saints don't find the cash to make an offer for him tbh. I know there fans are saying they won't because of money and the fact that they have Smith and Eastmond but Saints have a history of battling it out for high profile British players when they become available for money transfers and when it comes to Smith/Eastmond i'm not sure Potter is convinced by either(and rightfully so tbh).

My money would be on Wire but i'm not counting out Saints by any means just yet.

As for us i can't see it tbh.'"


Potter seems to be giving Eastmond the chance now - so its a bit soon to know whether he will be able to hold down the spot next year and into the future.

I just dont think that Saints have the spare cash to pay a trasfer fee now, the only way we can realistically sign him is at the end of next year when he will be out of contract.

Other than that, the only way I can see Saints being involved is to force the price up that Wire / Wigan have to pay for him.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach29774
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: saints35 bulls0 "Potter seems to be giving Eastmond the chance now - so its a bit soon to know whether he will be able to hold down the spot next year and into the future.

I just dont think that Saints have the spare cash to pay a trasfer fee now, the only way we can realistically sign him is at the end of next year when he will be out of contract.

Other than that, the only way I can see Saints being involved is to force the price up that Wire / Wigan have to pay for him.'"


Eastmonds getting a shot now which is good but i suppose he has to prove his fitness over a longer period then just a few weeks but he is the hope as he's a top class talent. I'd be very suprised if Matty Smith makes it at Saints tbh.

I just wouldn't be suprised if you enter any bidding for Myler but we'll see i suppose. Maybe like you say they just will to push up the price.

RankPostsTeam
Moderator14395No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2024May 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED

Moderator


Quote: Cruncher "Valid reasons

There are two money issues when signing a player like Myler. Any transfer fee involved and how much he wants wages wise.

The latter ought not to be a problem in competing with the favourites (Wire) to sign him as they have plenty of high profile players and so its obvious they do not have a bottomless pit of money to offer him. They work to the salary cap as well and we have several players off contract at least one of which is supposed to be on a high wage.

So its all to do with how you place a value on a young talented scrum have who could be here for 10 years alongside Sam T. The chance to get a British half back (don't forge the federation trained rules are starting to have an effect) seems to me to one where you ought to push the boat out a bit.

The same applies to the transfer fee. Well worth the chairman dipping into his pocket for the above reasons.

Quote: Cruncher "b) We may already have a new half lined up who you don't know about (again, just saying we haven't got one won't cut it - you simply don't know).'"


He might but you don't don't know he has and unless this mythical player has signed I would hope IL would peruse Myler instead because he is clearly available.

Quote: Cruncher "c) We may feel that having two inexperienced halves is not a good plan (feel free to disagree, but the pros in this field may take a different view, and they'll be the ones IL will listen to, not you).
'"


Our team is a mess IMO and we won't fix it by signing an experienced (read old) pro scrum half for two or three seasons. Sometimes young players are actually as talented as they are made out to be, ready for playing week in and week out and so on. I see nothing to suggest Myler does not fall into this bracket and it isn't as if we don't have more experienced cover with TL signed up already.

Quote: Cruncher "d) There may be a concern that Sam will feel his place is being threatened, and get unsettled, which in turn may unsettle his brothers (you may know the Tomkins family, but it's unlikely you have a professional relationship with them, whereas IL does).
'"


Talk about pure speculation! Where have you dreamt this one up? The idea would be to play them in the same team alongside each other. Why would he get upset?

Quote: Cruncher "Those would be four valid reasons straight off the top of my head. '"


Valid reasons? The first one (money) is obviously valid, the rest are born out of imaginary situations you have dreamt up, i.e. we may have signed a player, some experienced pros (who?) may disagree, Sam T may get upset (that's a classic).

Quote: Cruncher "Just because you say the chairman lacks courage, that doesn't mean it's true. It could just as easily mean that you have a personal bee in your bonnet, which is divorcing your thinking from reality. But if it's any consolation, you aren't alone in that.'"


I don't think you have a great hold on reality yourself given the speculation in your "valid" reasons for not signing him.

There may well be valid reasons for not signing him but I can't see any obvious ones apart from the money side of it. The upshot is we have the chance to create a half back partnership that could give us the stability in these two key positions for years to come.

Instead of thinking for reasons why we ought not to do this simply to defend the chairman, have you not even considered it might be a great signing to make?

Dave

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach4784No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2020Dec 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Unless anyone knows for a FACT where Myler is going why bother going on about him going to Wire or Wigan.

Somebody step up and make the call, and justify how they know for a FACT.

Sick of all the BS.

RankPostsTeam
Moderator14395No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2024May 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED

Moderator


Quote: Last Son of Wigan "Unless anyone knows for a FACT where Myler is going why bother going on about him going to Wire or Wigan.

Somebody step up and make the call, and justify how they know for a FACT.

Sick of all the BS.'"


Offiah, Mylers agent, has said he is not going to sign an new deal with Salford when his contract expires at the end of next season and even though he is contracted to them for another year Offiah has also said that could change.

Those are the facts. The rumour is Wire are favourites to sign him. The debate is should we try to.

I am struggling to see the BS here.

Dave

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach4784No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2020Dec 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: DaveO "Offiah, Mylers agent, has said he is not going to sign an new deal with Salford when his contract expires at the end of next season and even though he is contracted to them for another year Offiah has also said that could change.

Those are the facts. The rumour is Wire are favourites to sign him. The debate is should we try to.

I am struggling to see the BS here.

Dave'"


Then you need to read several other posts. Many saying Myler IS going to wire, many saying Offiah WILL get to sign for Wigan.

Maybe now you will see in.

LSoW.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach15259No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 200619 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: DaveO "There are two money issues when signing a player like Myler. Any transfer fee involved and how much he wants wages wise.

The latter ought not to be a problem in competing with the favourites (Wire) to sign him as they have plenty of high profile players and so its obvious they do not have a bottomless pit of money to offer him. They work to the salary cap as well and we have several players off contract at least one of which is supposed to be on a high wage.

So its all to do with how you place a value on a young talented scrum have who could be here for 10 years alongside Sam T. The chance to get a British half back (don't forge the federation trained rules are starting to have an effect) seems to me to one where you ought to push the boat out a bit.

The same applies to the transfer fee. Well worth the chairman dipping into his pocket for the above reasons.



He might but you don't don't know he has and unless this mythical player has signed I would hope IL would peruse Myler instead because he is clearly available.



Our team is a mess IMO and we won't fix it by signing an experienced (read old) pro scrum half for two or three seasons. Sometimes young players are actually as talented as they are made out to be, ready for playing week in and week out and so on. I see nothing to suggest Myler does not fall into this bracket and it isn't as if we don't have more experienced cover with TL signed up already.



Talk about pure speculation! Where have you dreamt this one up? The idea would be to play them in the same team alongside each other. Why would he get upset?



Valid reasons? The first one (money) is obviously valid, the rest are born out of imaginary situations you have dreamt up, i.e. we may have signed a player, some experienced pros (who?) may disagree, Sam T may get upset (that's a classic).



I don't think you have a great hold on reality yourself given the speculation in your "valid" reasons for not signing him.

There may well be valid reasons for not signing him but I can't see any obvious ones apart from the money side of it. The upshot is we have the chance to create a half back partnership that could give us the stability in these two key positions for years to come.

Instead of thinking for reasons why we ought not to do this simply to defend the chairman, have you not even considered it might be a great signing to make?

Dave'"


I think there'd be problems with this signing. I've said in other threads that I wouldn't turn the lad down. He's undoubtedly a talent. But having two inexperienced halfbacks is not ideal, especially if one of them has cost you a lot of money (and especially if you've already made a deal with someone else - which you can't deny because you simply don't know).

As for the ideas I've dreamt up, fine. You stick with your 'IL is crap' alternative - after all, it's a point you've been hammering since he took over the club (but it's no less a piece of guesswork than my explanations).

However, given that the Salary Cap now renders all clubs equal, and that Wigan no longer have a monopoly on recruiting top talent, I think it highly possible that Wire will pip us here. So if I were you, I'd book your place on the parapet at the top of your office block right now. Because the way some of you lot go on, I'm sure the next 'big signing we miss 'will lead to suicides.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman3253No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Dec 2016Nov 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: LovesToSpooge "How do you know what's going on? Are you another in the know?'"


Maybe I am... I just wish I'd have come on here last week when I found out about Hock... perhaps my comments would have carried more weight... but obviously... with the kind of issue we have with Hock, then topics end up being deleted or locked until official statements.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach23178No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2023Apr 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Hopefully he'll choose us over you just like Langer, Johns, Reardon, Morley, King did. icon_wink.gif

[]
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach6901No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2009Jan 1970LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: LoyalFan "Maybe I am... I just wish I'd have come on here last week when I found out about Hock... perhaps my comments would have carried more weight... but obviously... with the kind of issue we have with Hock, then topics end up being deleted or locked until official statements.'"


Absolute classic. icon_lol.gif

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach20628
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200916 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2016Aug 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: - Neil - "Myler isnt the answer for us - let Wire have him.'"


not when you're in the market for a second rower icon_wink.gif

but you'd have the room on the cap now

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach225No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200619 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2010May 2010LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Connor The Warrior "I have been told that he is going to sign for Wigan. Im not telling you told me, but lets just say the person couldnt be any closer to him?????'"


icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif
Love it that is pure class!!

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach3422No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2012Jun 2012LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Myler is a Wire, has been agreed for months with Myler, contracts are not worth the paper there wrote on.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman19907No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Oct 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Both Wigan and Warrington have had bids accepted. Myler has indicated his first preference is to talk to Wigan.

183 posts in 13 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, DaveO , Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy , Pemps
183 posts in 13 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, DaveO , Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy , Pemps



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


10.21435546875:10
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
Recent
Film game
karetaker
5766
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
4s
Shopping list for 2025
HU8HFC
5588
6s
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40802
9s
Fixtures
Hockley Bron
12
11s
Rumours and signings v9
Mark_P1973
28902
19s
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Theeaststand
4048
45s
Salary Cap Changes Blocked - 11 votes to 1
NickyKiss
9
48s
Opening Championship and League One Fixtures for 2025 Released
RLFANS News
1
1m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2611
1m
Getting a new side to gel
Wigan Bull
2
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Shirt reveal coming soon
Khlav Kalash
2
TODAY
Opening Championship and League One Fixtures for 2025 Released
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Getting a new side to gel
Wigan Bull
2
TODAY
Fixtures
Hockley Bron
12
TODAY
Writers required
H.G.S.A
1
TODAY
2025 Fixtures
Jemmo
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS