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| Quote: WarriorSteve "Any reason given to Tomkins by noble for being dropped? MattyB'"
None given.....other than. [iNot tonight son[/i.
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| Its no wonder that rumours coming from various posters, saying players are unhappy at being dropped/left out of the side, if that is the approach taken to tell players they are not playing.
Surely then nobby's "Duty of Care" doesn't lend itself to a proper explanation of his decisions.
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| Quote: WarriorSteve "Its no wonder that rumours coming from various posters, saying players are unhappy at being dropped/left out of the side, if that is the approach taken to tell players they are not playing.
Surely then nobby's "Duty of Care" doesn't lend itself to a proper explanation of his decisions.'"
What makes you assume he wasn't given one.
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| For me, he wasnt right.
To bring Piggy straight back in the team is daft, after everything Nobles said about players having to wait to get back in if the team is playing well etc.
Alright we won at Wakefield despite a bad start, but that 17 battled their way back in to the game, and we need another battling performance last night in them conditions.
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| Wigan had plenty of effort and Biff in the tackle which was great to see. But we need some balance. We were clueless near the line to breadk down what was a very well organised and resolute defence. Sam and Shaun give us that little bit of X factor. I don't think we whould be throwing them in the deep all the time especially against toough teams like HKR but I did think that operating Sam off the bench in the last few games has been a good option. Last night was a mistake especially putting Riddell in who offered nothing apart from knock-ons at the play the ball!
After accepting defeat I am sort of pleased that he dropped Sam and Shaun because ir proved an important point.
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| Quote: AJ "What makes you assume he wasn't given one.'"
Because matty B said he wasn't...
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| Walking up to the game last night I was thinking that the lighter more fleet of foot player who can turn quickly and maintain balance would be a good option, e.g. Ainscough and Tomkins as it's much harder to react to a change in direction than start one.
We saw time and time again during the game the player running the angle had a significant advantage as they were able to get inside the defender who could not keep on their feet when turning.
Smith - waste of space tonight, didn't attack the line at all just passed the ball on to the next man.
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| Quote: alanpdodd "Walking up to the game last night I was thinking that the lighter more fleet of foot player who can turn quickly and maintain balance would be a good option, e.g. Ainscough and Tomkins as it's much harder to react to a change in direction than start one.
We saw time and time again during the game the player running the angle had a significant advantage as they were able to get inside the defender who could not keep on their feet when turning.
Smith - waste of space tonight, didn't attack the line at all just passed the ball on to the next man.'"
He had a poor second half, but that pass for Lockers first try was as good as any you will see.
One thing though, he wasn't poor defensively as he has been, but that could have been helped by the conditions as it was very difficult for players to get motoring.
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| Smith plays RL like a pansy.
His poncy bouncing up and down is reminiscent of Richie Mathers.
However, I suppose if we are satisfied with Amos "1 tackle and a ball steal" Roberts, we should be delighted with Tim "One pass" Smith.
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| No, he got it wrong, AGAIN. Rest? The lads 20 years old, why would he need a rest? As for Smith, as a stand off he's nothing short of a joke, iv never seen him take the line on once.
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| Quote: 21-12 "No, he got it wrong, AGAIN. Rest? The lads 20 years old, why would he need a rest? As for Smith, as a stand off he's nothing short of a joke, iv never seen him take the line on once.'"
Not that I'm defending Smith's overall performance - but not all 6s take on the line. His distribution on planned moves it outstanding, and luckily we have Tommy who, whilst isn't outstanding in terms of giving great balls, takes the line on successfully.
It's Smith's ability to think on his feet that I would criticise, not the fact that he doesn't take the line on.
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| Quote: Elle Coco "Not that I'm defending Smith's overall performance - but not all 6s take on the line. His distribution on planned moves it outstanding, and luckily we have Tommy who, whilst isn't outstanding in terms of giving great balls, takes the line on successfully.
It's Smith's ability to think on his feet that I would criticise, not the fact that he doesn't take the line on.'"
Lockyer, Pryce, Mcguire..all the top class number 6's take on the line, your number 7 is your main organiser, we need a top class number 6 desperately.
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| Quote: 21-12 "Lockyer, Pryce, Mcguire..all the top class number 6's take on the line, your number 7 is your main organiser, we need a top class number 6 desperately.'"
6 and 7 are the same in todays game. All I was saying was that he isn't one to take on the line, but his ball distribution and organization in set plays is outstanding.
Where Smith fails is having to organize off the cuff - this is why we need a better stand off.
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| Quote: 21-12 "No, he got it wrong, AGAIN. Rest? The lads 20 years old, why would he need a rest? As for Smith, as a stand off he's nothing short of a joke, iv never seen him take the line on once.'"
He was right to rest Sam last night it was always going to be a very hard hitting game and Sam could quite easily last night got hurt very badly and been put out for the rest of the season. The young lad from KR looked like he had broken his ankle when he came off for his sake i hope he has not. What would everyone on hear had been saying if Sam had broken his leg last night or worse everyone would have been saying he should not have played.
You have to ask do you save him for the wire game where he could cut them up and the 2 Salford games or risk him in a very hard game i know which i would do it was a good call last night.
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| Quote: 21-12 "Lockyer, Pryce, Mcguire..all the top class number 6's take on the line, your number 7 is your main organiser, we need a top class number 6 desperately.'"
We've got one he didn't select him
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