I know that's why I said "your best tackler".

I'll give you an opinion after the Cas game. God knows what category of fan I am but I wasn't there tonight so have no idea how they played compared to last week. What I do know is they lost and losing your two opening games isn't really good enough.

Dave

Lets face it boys & girls, we might hear we were out enthused, we disrespected the game, we didn't complete our sets, they where up for it that little bit more, the season isn't won in feb. Blah, Blah, Blah. The fact is to lose to a poor Hull side and a shocking Wakey side, we are in the e. Riddell (injury or not) is e, Phelps has not kicked on at all, & would the real Tim Smith please stand up. We still don't have that plan B when our predictable plan A does wrong.

I don't know if we have the answers at this point in time, I am that depressed it is frightening. This e needs sorting out & quick if we lose 2 cas next week we might be looking at a bad, bad season. We either get S. Tomkins in to see what he can do or we get someone else in because, we are not creating or finishing enough chances and why the fook can't we keep hold of the fooking ball, this is really e, e, e, e!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If he is deemed all washed up as Wigan coach what is the point in keeping him?

Give the job to Wane on a temporary basis.

The devil you know may do more damage by being kept on.

Dave

A few things:

I don't think we were 'out-enthused' tonight.
The Hull side wasn't poor.
Phelps went off injured after about 20 (30?) minutes. O'Loughlin/Tomkins had to play centre.
Tim Smith was our MOM tonight.

You are a Category 4 fan at least.

a poor hull fc team that beat an equally poor if not worse overseas filled less than average team!!

Where there many rumours pre season? Beyond those on here not liking Noble?

We need to give him 10-15 games. It is madness to judge a coach 3 games into a season.

Yes, there seems to be no improvement from last, but I fail to see who we can appoint after 3 games who is available who would change anything, given we don't have a stand off and are a centre short of being anything like.

btw thats twice now a poor hull team as beat you at the kc two seasons running

i think your sig should sums you up perfect, just exchange saints to your name

Bless.

People are starting to judge him on far more than 15 games. They are starting to judge him on 2007, 2008 [iand [/ithe games we play this season. The fact we have played only two so far is not seen as relevant to the bigger picture of how the team plays under him which by and large is poorly.



Wakefield were short of a lot of first team regulars so I don't think is any excuse and part of the problem is how Noble is dealing with the half backs. It seem obvious to me now that it should be Smith at 7, Tomkins at 6 and TL as a 9.

If it doesn't work, it doesn't work but he would have far more support from the fans if he did that than picked the team as he has done so far. He is part of the problem.

Dave