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I think if you look at most clubs in the past they haven't done enough to train and keep young players, but what is important now is that a lot of clubs are making an effort to change that which has to be the best for the game on all levels in the long run.

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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



Quote: gateaux "I think if you look at most clubs in the past they haven't done enough to train and keep young players, but what is important now is that a lot of clubs are making an effort to change that which has to be the best for the game on all levels in the long run.'"


That is because they know that a good load of youth players coming through gets you an extra franchise point, so the system is starting to work, although still not so keen on the points and stuff, I think more needs to be take into consideration. But it is an easy point bringing young fellas through really isnt it.

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Embarassing article that for Wigan - despite any queries regarding the statistics.

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Quote: odemwingie "That is because they know that a good load of youth players coming through gets you an extra franchise point, so the system is starting to work, although still not so keen on the points and stuff, I think more needs to be take into consideration. But it is an easy point bringing young fellas through really isnt it.'"
When the structures are in place at Academy level (and earlier) then yes it probably is, but first they need to get the structures in place to do bring the players through and to identify the players with potential.

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one major reason wigan are not up to the level of leeds and saints on a consistent basis is the amount of overseas players and lack of chance for younger players who play in our team.
Ok, fair enough if you've got an aussie up to the standard of barret; who regardless of his nationality you would want in your team. However, i team is dominated by forreign players who for me arent at the level our team requires, bailey, riddel, phelps, smith just examples of players who i personally would rather have young british talent playing in that position.
Take leeds for example. Young Kallum watkins thrown into the deepend, but it paid off. Why dont wigan give the lines of young ainscough a chance and young talent like tomkins more a first team chance. starting over-rated, over-payed aussies week in week out we are never going to develop as a team. Signing a handful of players every new season isnt going to get us anywhere, it may work in football, but not in this sport. we need to build a homegrown squad and let them develop.

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it does not matter were in england players come fromthey can represent great britain unlike 9 players at wigan.

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Quote: mr chips "it does not matter were in england players come fromthey can represent great britain unlike 9 players at wigan.'"


I bow down to your club's interest in doing all things great for British RL!

Putting us on the Back Pages of Sports Papers for Gambling/Drugs etc
For Leon Pryce & His "Ball" Handling skills & his off the field Mis-demenours!
Your players undying commitment to the GB Cause i.e Long & Cunningham!

For giving us Maureen!

For supplying us with 6 or 7 of these Superstars for the 2008 World Cup down under where we performed worse than any other GB Team in Living Memory!

Yeah, Thanks for that! icon_rolleyes.gif oh yeah & Jon Wilkin! icon_rolleyes.gif

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were on about foreign players, all clubs have problems most of them are kept in house, come on tell me how many of your team can play for gb

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Quote: mr chips "were on about foreign players, all clubs have problems most of them are kept in house, come on tell me how many of your team can play for gb'"


Mathers
Richards yes complain when Mary gets in
Goulding
Fielden
Hock
O Loughlin
J & S Tomkins
McIlloram
Prescott
O Carroll
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Pryce

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maury is a british citizen now not an aussie whos had is passport fiddled, we are on about 1st team not fringe players.

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Quote: mr chips "maury is a british citizen now not an aussie whos had is passport fiddled, we are on about 1st team not fringe players.'"


Although Irish obviously and not strictly "British" - Pat Richards' entire family are Irish. He was the only child to be born in Australia after his parents emigrated and spent a lot of time in Ireland in his childhood.

Now I would still refer to him as an Aussie - but if you are including Maury then surely you must see how Richards counts on even more satisfying grounds?

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Quote: mr chips "maury is a british citizen now not an aussie whos had is passport fiddled, we are on about 1st team not fringe players.'"


Who is fringe apart from Sam Tomkins and Pryce?

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[color=#FF0000:1a02isux][b:1a02isux]IN A WARRIORS CODE THERE'S NO SURRENDER....THOUGH HIS BODY SAYS STOP, HIS SPIRIT CRY'S NEVER!!!![/b:1a02isux][/color:1a02isux]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_17903.jpg



Quote: mr chips "maury is a british citizen now not an aussie whos had is passport fiddled, we are on about 1st team not fringe players.'"



Richards dosnt need to become a british citizen matey..his parents are Irish.he could have played for GB without stepping foot into the uk.unlike maury.

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he took british citizenship , hence he is now classed as BRITISH richards born ib aus classed as irish not british, you have done the same with carmont. lets call it a day as you cant get round facts.

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Quote: mr chips "he took british citizenship , hence he is now classed as BRITISH richards born ib aus classed as irish not british, you have done the same with carmont. lets call it a day as you cant get round facts.'"


Brian Carney was Irish but played for Great Britain.

The team is actually GB and Ireland.

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