Don't get me wrong I was as bitterly dissapointed with Wigan's performance and Mathers' lack of balls as the next man.

However, Wigan fans that boo the team, and especially those that booed Mathers on his return from the sin bin are feable.

It's these kind of deluded fans that thought after the Huddersfield game last year that the only reason we ain't winning the league is due to a 'lack of pride in the shirt'.

The way he was puffing and trying to get out to the wing for a breather every 5 mins.

Come on, he wasn't alone in that.

However, I wouldn't argue that he didn't do much. He tried, but nothing came off for him, and all it usually amounted to was costing us possession (often on the 3rd tackle).

No your right he wasnt the only one, but he seemed to be puffing hard from pretty early on.I know he was given more time off in the close season and i think it shows badly.I dont know why he was given extra time off as he hadnt played that much last season and wasnt involved in the worldcup.Lets hope he turns out to be the player were hoping for.

Same here. I could not bring myself to clap them on Sunday, certain players did deserve it for there efforts, but not the team collectively.

it was your first game for christ sake dont panic

You can usually set your watch by some of the people near us who leave before the end.

However it did raise a smile when some people were halfway down the steps to the exits when Martin (?) was lining up a penalty goal to make it 14-6 (this was around 10 minutes to go), then when it hit the post were seen scurrying back to their seats thinking "we could win this"!

from a business point of view and given the economic slump we are in, i bet the chairman would prefer 15,000 paying speccies even if some leave early or boo the team off rather than 8 or 9k who just sit there to the end and don't voice their opinions. it is up to the club to provide a product that
keeps the fans happy, this clearly hasn't been happening and needs sorting out.

Why the hell does that matter?

On subject, personally i dont care who leaves early, everyone pays there own hard earning money and cant make there own choice at what part of the game they want to leave.

Should the people who go down for a beeer/snack after 30 minutes to beat the queue be called for it? They are leaving the half early after all.

Its personal choice and who can blame people in games such as that, it was boring, cold, pointless. Some of the people leaving has young kids who looked blue they were that cold.

I have ever only left 2 or 3 games early, the last one was the game in Cardiff against Saints last year. Can you blame me?

People do need to stop going on about this kind of topic, it happens to EVERY team in EVERY sport, people will leave early.

Get over it, move on and enjoy the season.

Tim Smith is unfit because he has major health issues. In 2005 when he had his stellar season he was very slim, not much bigger than a Sam T. Even then he was never fast but he was incredibly 'fast' between the ears.

It is tragic so see how his life/career have deteriorated.

Your not wrong.

They dont do Stella in Oz!!!! You for one should know