FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > Wigan Warriors > What do we change?
21 posts in 2 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, DaveO , Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy , Bilko , Pemps
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2983
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
icons15f0_files/3441-1022jacare-msnicons.jpg
:icons15f0_files/3441-1022jacare-msnicons.jpg



Quote: NickyKiss "Getting another crack at Saints will be tough enough but I think we need to change things for this Friday anyway. We need more pace and energy to try and go round teams because we’ve not got the size to go through them. Hardaker looks like he’s running in treacle at the minute and I’d swap him and Sarginson round, with Sarge coming back in at fullback and Hardaker going to centre. We have to start French without any shadow of a doubt. I’m lost as to why he’s gone from putting in the best performance from any of our wingers all year against Catalans to being a bit part player from the bench. Lammy has shown a bit too much sentiment these past few weeks IMO with French being dropped to the bench to make way for two lads here at the start of the year and followed that up by starting Lockers on Friday. We need our best performing players on the field from the start against Salford and there’s no doubt in my mind that French and Smithies have been two of those.'"


Ive thought quite a lot over the weekend and it wouldn't surprise me lam went with the same 17 except for Sarginson in for Hankinson.

We've got SOL, Flower, Greenwod and potentially Powell who are not match fit and the only only way they are going to get fitter is to play against Salford. Risky but Lam can lay the gauntlet down and ask for a performance to go some way in paying back for Friday's lacklustre effort.

It's not necessarily what I want but this approach wouldn't surprise me at all. Salford will come down the middle so at least we can plan accordingly.

Another defeat wouldn't surprise me but neither would a convincing win.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach7439No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200520 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Oct 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



I hate to sound pessimistic but I don’t think any change we make will make a difference. I still think we’d get beat by 12 or more.

I honestly don’t believe we have the players to win. More so in the forwards than elsewhere. They’re too big, strong, quick and powerful as it stands.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2983
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
icons15f0_files/3441-1022jacare-msnicons.jpg
:icons15f0_files/3441-1022jacare-msnicons.jpg



Quote: 100% Warrior "I hate to sound pessimistic but I don’t think any change we make will make a difference. I still think we’d get beat by 12 or more.

I honestly don’t believe we have the players to win. More so in the forwards than elsewhere. They’re too big, strong, quick and powerful as it stands.'"


We've got to beat Salford first and that is far far from certain.
We deservingly got hammered but no point in even thinking about Saints unless we beat Salford first.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach7439No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200520 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Oct 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: Itchy Arsenal "We've got to beat Salford first and that is far far from certain.
We deservingly got hammered but no point in even thinking about Saints unless we beat Salford first.'"


I know we are in for one hell of a tough ask on Friday. Far from guaranteed as you say.

I’m just working on the hope we do best Salford and play Saints again but my point re the forwards also stands for Salford. If they play like they did on last week, we’re up the proverbial creek without a paddle.

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain41No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 20186 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Oct 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Chopping Tommys right foot off would help,stop him kicking as its shocking,never recovered from 2 bad kicks at the start

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach29773
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
10919_1322084665.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_10919.jpg



Quote: keyrox "Chopping Tommys right foot off would help,stop him kicking as its shocking,never recovered from 2 bad kicks at the start'"


Your point stands regards just what an awful kicker Tommy is but in fairness to him, no kicker in the history of the sport would thrive keep having to kick from his own 30 metres. Our first two sets were pretty embarrassing in all honesty, with us struggling to out of our own twenty.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach15259No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 200619 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: NickyKiss "Your point stands regards just what an awful kicker Tommy is but in fairness to him, no kicker in the history of the sport would thrive keep having to kick from his own 30 metres. Our first two sets were pretty embarrassing in all honesty, with us struggling to out of our own twenty.'"


Any way you look at it, it comes back to the forwards being comprehensively owned.

Big and brave decisions are required from next week onwards.

Names alone do not win matches against genuinely good teams.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach6308
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Aug 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
10873_1262551258.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_10873.jpg



Smithies has to start. He makes such a difference in defense

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach4784No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2020Dec 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



French to FB. Playing as a second receiver pivot off the back of Tommy and Williams left and right pivot. Then we have speed and link up out wide.

Hardaker to centre or wing. He’s too good to sit out.

Smithies to 13, Lockers as a prop. Either starting or off the bench.

Greenwood to left edge. Faz to right. Controversial call but for me the right one.

Drop Clubb. He’s awful. Has been for years with the occasional purple patch which makes people forget.

Drop Isa. Too slow to be a centre, doesn’t make enough impact going forward as a SR.

Contemplating using Sammut as a sub. At times when you need that spark of life, I don’t know where else to look.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach29773
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
10919_1322084665.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_10919.jpg



No changes according to Lam in the press conference. Only possible change is Sarginson for Hankinson. He wants to give the players a chance to redeem themselves.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach15453
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

[quote="Frank Zappa":1sacjrvf]Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.[/quote:1sacjrvf] [quote="The_Enforcer":1sacjrvf]Most idiotic post ever goes to Grimmy..... The way to restart should be an arm wrestle between a designated player from each side.[/quote:1sacjrvf]:



Quote: NickyKiss "No changes according to Lam in the press conference. Only possible change is Sarginson for Hankinson. He wants to give the players a chance to redeem themselves.'"

I wasn't expecting wholesale changes at this point but I can't get my head round not at least making a couple of tweaks. Surely it's worth giving Greenwood a crack.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach4784No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2020Dec 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: NickyKiss "No changes according to Lam in the press conference. Only possible change is Sarginson for Hankinson. He wants to give the players a chance to redeem themselves.'"


My question would be why couldn’t they get up for the game in the first place and why do they need a chance to redeem?

That game was playing our biggest rivals. A team we’ve not beaten all season in a game which secures our place in the GF.
If you can’t get up for that then there’s something wrong.

Lam’s strategy suggestions there was nothing wrong with tactics or performance, just attitude.

What must Greenwood think? Watches he’s team hammered, sees players who play in his position play poorly and still can’t get in because the head coach wants to give those who couldn’t get up for a Wigan/Saints game a second chance.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach1832No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
15723.gif
:15723.gif



Quote: Grimmy "I wasn't expecting wholesale changes at this point but I can't get my head round not at least making a couple of tweaks. Surely it's worth giving Greenwood a crack.'"


Surely dropping him off was enough, no need to go giving the guy a crack as well.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach3003
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 201015 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Salford sold 2.5k and counting, we'll be outnumbered at this rate icon_biggrin.gif

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach1192
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 201015 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2024Nov 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
51209_1313399598.gif
Regards , EW:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_51209.gif



The seat map makes pretty grim viewing. Unless there is a surge of ticket sales the crowd (Salford end spart) will be poor . Think Lam has had enough of moving Faz around to accommodate Greenwood so he has binned him .

Regards EW

21 posts in 2 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, DaveO , Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy , Bilko , Pemps
21 posts in 2 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, DaveO , Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy , Bilko , Pemps



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


3.9580078125:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
5m
Film game
karetaker
5627
35m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2590
38m
Transfer Talk V5
RAPIDO
502
38m
Fixtures 2025
Faithful One
64
55m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
bonaire
4013
58m
Salford
karetaker
11
Recent
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
Jack Burton
11
Recent
Dual Reg
Big lads mat
7
Recent
Leeds away first up
Big lads mat
40
Recent
How many games will we win
bellycouldta
3
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
55s
Salford placed in special measures
FIL
94
59s
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
bonaire
4013
1m
Fixtures
Willzay
13
1m
Rumours thread
Scarlet Pimp
2515
1m
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
1m
Fixtures 2025
Faithful One
64
1m
Salford
karetaker
11
1m
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
ColD
2
2m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40731
3m
New Kit
Saddened!
67
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
bellycouldta
3
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
ColD
2
TODAY
Catalan Away
jonh
5
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
karetaker
11
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
Big lads mat
40
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Butcher
20
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
330
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
517
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1262
England's Women Demolish The W..
1088
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1325
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1118
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1377
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1918
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2136
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2378
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1950
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2187
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2652
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2082
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2157
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.65M 1,763 ↓-15180,15514,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 Thu 13th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Wigan
v
Leigh
 Fri 14th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Hull KR
v
Castleford
20:00
Catalans
v
Hull FC
 Sat 15th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Leeds
v
Wakefield
17:30
St.Helens
v
Salford
 Sun 16th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Warrington
 Thu 20th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Wakefield
v
Hull KR
 Fri 21st Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Warrington
v
Catalans
20:00
Hull FC
v
Wigan
 Sat 22nd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
15:00
Salford
v
Leeds
20:00
Castleford
v
St.Helens
 Sun 23rd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
14:30
Leigh
v
Huddersfield
 Thu 6th Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
20:00
Hull FC
v
Leigh
 Fri 7th Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
20:00
Castleford
v
Salford
20:00
St.Helens
v
Hull KR
 Sat 8th Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
17:30
Catalans
v
Leeds
 Sun 9th Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
17:30
Warrington
v
Wakefield
17:30
Wigan
v
Huddersfield
 Thu 20th Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R4
20:00
Salford
v
Huddersfield
 Fri 21st Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R4
20:00
St.Helens
v
Warrington
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
Sat 8th Mar
SL
17:30
Catalans-Leeds
Sun 9th Mar
SL
17:30
Warrington-Wakefield
SL
17:30
Wigan-Huddersfield
Thu 20th Mar
SL
20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 21st Mar
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Warrington
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
5m
Film game
karetaker
5627
35m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2590
38m
Transfer Talk V5
RAPIDO
502
38m
Fixtures 2025
Faithful One
64
55m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
bonaire
4013
58m
Salford
karetaker
11
Recent
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
Jack Burton
11
Recent
Dual Reg
Big lads mat
7
Recent
Leeds away first up
Big lads mat
40
Recent
How many games will we win
bellycouldta
3
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
55s
Salford placed in special measures
FIL
94
59s
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
bonaire
4013
1m
Fixtures
Willzay
13
1m
Rumours thread
Scarlet Pimp
2515
1m
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
1m
Fixtures 2025
Faithful One
64
1m
Salford
karetaker
11
1m
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
ColD
2
2m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40731
3m
New Kit
Saddened!
67
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
bellycouldta
3
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
ColD
2
TODAY
Catalan Away
jonh
5
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
karetaker
11
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
Big lads mat
40
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Butcher
20
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
330
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
517
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1262
England's Women Demolish The W..
1088
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1325
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1118
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1377
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1918
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2136
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2378
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1950
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2187
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2652
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2082
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2157


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!