Wonder if he will play dudson for flower. Its interesting Dudson played for south wales at the weekend. Wane was talking up how dudson trained last week.

Our form the last 8 weeks has been pants. We've gotta get the stupid handling errors and missed tackles fixed and build some form. LLS is one thing and I'm chuffed with it but I still think wire are better than us and in much better form. If we want the GF win, we need all hands on deck and we need it now. I say play the best 17 available bar none. We need some form and need it now.

Personally I would 'rest' (using the world 'rest' loosely as they dont look fit/out of form) Finch, Hansen and Mossop. I'd give Leuluai/Fielden and Dudson some game time before the play-offs just to weigh up our options.

1. Tomkins
2. Charnley
3. Goulding
4. Carmont
5. Richards
6. Smith
7. Leuluai
8. Flower
9. McIlorum
10. Lima
11. Farrell
12. Hock
13. O'Loughlin

14. Fielden
15. Dudson
16. Hughes
17. Lauaki

I'm with Bilko, I don't think physical tiredness is the issue. If anything, it was our superior fitness that saw us through against tiring opposition. It's more a lack of composure that's been letting us down - and maybe a game with no pressure (other than it being Saints) is what they need?

Dudson and Fielden are both playing according to Wane on the official site. He wants to have a look at were they're at before the play offs.

Good call IMO .

Luaki, Mcllorum and Carmont working with physio in the gym this morning so could be doubts or rested Friday.

Bring the better players off the bench and play them for 30 mins

Murphy (Why risk Tomkins are best player in a nothing game?)
Russell (Why risk the top scoring winger in a nothing game?)
Goulding
Gelling (Carmont needs to be rested when we can)
Richards (Would benefit from game time)
Finch (Looks like he needs to gain fitness)
Smith
Fielden (Needs game time urgently)
Tomkins (Again, why risk McM in a nothing game)
Mossop (under par, needs to be told to front up if he wants a place in the team)
Hansen (Looks off the pace still)
Faz (Why risk Hock?)
Flower (Why risk the capt?)
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Eric, Dudson, Tommy, Hughes

Bring Tommy into the game as a 7 or 9, give him 60 mins.

Being 100% ready for the GF is what's important, put our ego to oneside, beating Saints in this game means nothing-only ego.

Matty Smith just tweeted that he's not playing tonight.

must be confident Tommy can do 80

It'll be interesting to see the side. Wane has said in an interview in the WEP that we won't be at full strength. Wheather he's just meaning because we're without Prescott and Lauaki or because he's resting a few more only he knows.

I'd possibly look at giving Carmont a break and dropping Mossop for a week but I'd go with a full side other then that.

I disagree with some comments that the players are not looking tired - I think some of them have looked tired for a few weeks now and this is very worrying at this stage of the season and reminds me of last season.

Massive game for Stuart Fielden if he plays.

I think our superior fitness was a big reason for our comeback against HKR, we looked full of running still, while they looked exhausted.

We don't look tired. We look like we lack concentration in attack and defence at the start of games. Also our pack don't seem up for it at the minute, defence down the middle has been shocking (don't think its down to tiredness, more an attitude thing). I think having such an unsettled side for the last 3 months has played a big part.

He's also tweeted that he's not injured, they just want to give more game time to players coming back from injury ahead of the play-offs.