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[quote="Frank Zappa":1sacjrvf]Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.[/quote:1sacjrvf] [quote="The_Enforcer":1sacjrvf]Most idiotic post ever goes to Grimmy..... The way to restart should be an arm wrestle between a designated player from each side.[/quote:1sacjrvf]:



England for my money, gives the other nations a chance to improve

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as soon as we split into individual nations it went t!ts up.
works at soccer....not at rugby.

take a comparison.......ryder cup ......used to be gb v usa ..and we got hammered.
added europe and we are competitive.
pool....mosconi cup.......usa would hammer gb.

lets get back to strength in numbers and gat back to GB.....only way we'llever be competitive imo.

next question..........Wales have qualified for next years 4 nations.....along with aussies , kiwis..and WHO?
if we lose to PNG are we out of it next time around?...will wales take our place?

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Quote: Grimmy "England for my money, gives the other nations a chance to improve'"

how the hell you worked that out?........most of the players from Wles, ireland and scotland are come out of the woodwork foreigners.

as tery o connor said on boots n all.........nobody wanted to know about playing for wales......but now they are in 4 nations theres gonna be NRL players digging up Welsh great great great grandparents to play in it.

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[quote="Frank Zappa":1sacjrvf]Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.[/quote:1sacjrvf] [quote="The_Enforcer":1sacjrvf]Most idiotic post ever goes to Grimmy..... The way to restart should be an arm wrestle between a designated player from each side.[/quote:1sacjrvf]:



Quote: wigan pie man "how the hell you worked that out?........most of the players from Wles, ireland and scotland are come out of the woodwork foreigners.

as tery o connor said on boots n all.........nobody wanted to know about playing for wales......but now they are in 4 nations theres gonna be NRL players digging up Welsh great great great grandparents to play in it.'"

If you were the best player on the best team in wales you would still have no chance of playing for GB because it's SL/NRL only. This gives them that chance, and it doesn't really make England any weaker anyway, who would be playing for us? Briers and Richards, that's about it. You touch on selection too, I think this needs sorting, it should be whichever country you have lived in longest IMO, none of the great grandparents rubbish.

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Quote: Grimmy "England for my money, gives the other nations a chance to improve'"


The other nations will only improve if after choosing to play for Scotland , Wales or Ireland they have to stay with these countries.If England can cherry pick the best from these countries after they have shown promise these minor registration countries will continue to tread water .

3 Irish players (their names escape me) after the world cup threw their hat in with England, as did Danny Brough the Scottish captain (now back with Scotland the mugs we are). Mark Calerwood was offered a place in the England World Cup squad only 7 days before the World Cup to cover injuries. He pulled out of the Scotland squad he was already selected for and training with to do so .

Wales have played well this year and well done to them, but i think we all feel they will take a couple of thumpings in the 4 nations next year .

Would watch 17 Englishmen play for GB but not under the English flag.It has to be GB for me and i will be at all the games .

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Quote: mattmanche5ter "ok ,how many players have played for G.B who wouldn't have qualified for England in the past and how many would in todays team?'"


SL best hooker - Cunningham in the past.
Jonathon Davies played for Wales against the Aussies as well as GB.
Briers would have played on the current tour.

Not many that I can think of, but would have made a big difference.

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England for me. Since RU went pro GB is basically England so there would be no difference to the team anyway. England also give Wales, Scotland and Ireland a chance to deveop.

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for some reason I always preferred it when it was Great Britain instead of England

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Great Britain........bring back the Red , White & Blue !!!!!!!!!!!

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Quote: twosevenzero "Great Britain........bring back the Red , White & Blue !!!!!!!!!!!'"

If I remember rightly, the only reason they changed frm GB to Wales, Ireland etc was to claim extra funding from the government. was it Sporting England???

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Personally I prefer England, can't tell you why I just do.

However, I would one day like to see a "British and Irish Lions" tour - similar to that of RU's, but actually taking Welsh/Irish/Scottish players as well as English players. I think its only then when we should refer it to GB.

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What's the rumpus, Tom? [quote="Pemps":1dso5atj]I can't confirm Bennett's exact words but I believe they were along the lines of "Strewth Ian, I wouldn't touch him with yours. He's a flammin' Gala". [/quote:1dso5atj] [quote="Wigan Peer":1dso5atj]I keep my bin under 30mph to avoid fines... :CURTAIN:[/quote:1dso5atj] [quote="MattyB":1dso5atj]you cant tell me they are all busting for a turd. [/quote:1dso5atj] Please see for me if she's wearing a coat so warm To keep her from the howlin' winds.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_44075.jpg



There is no magic any more now that it is the home nations, I don’t get the same buzz from watching Scotland, England, Wales or Ireland. It used to be the highlight of the RL calander for my money, but not anymore.

I feel that it should be team GB for all the minor tournaments (test series, 4 nations etc) and split into home nations for the World cup.

When team GB get together for the 4 Nations or a test series. Have a "B" comp running for the home nations.

This will allow "real" Scottish, Welsh and Irish players to represent their country at RL against a more level playing field against England "B" and France.

There was nowt wrong with the old system, so why can’t we just go back?

Don’t give me anything that it helps develop players from the minor (in RL terms!!) nations. At the moment every player with an ounce of talent declares them self eligible for England because they know that is the only chance they will get to play against the Ockers and Kiwis.

Let these talented players play for their respective nations, but at the same time let them be in contention to be picked for GB against the big boys.

At the moment the GB team would be made up of a majority of English players, that pretty much stands to reason. But think of all the players that have played for GB over the years would not have declared themself for England

Of the top of my head
Brian Carney, Tez O’Connor, Barrie Mac, Chris Joynt, Jonathon Davis, KFC, Iysten Harris etc

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Quote: tugglesf78 "But think of all the players that have played for GB over the years would not have declared themself for England

Of the top of my head
Brian Carney, Tez O’Connor, Barrie Mac, Chris Joynt, Jonathon Davis, KFC, Iysten Harris etc'"


They would all have played for England if there was no GB equivalent, with the exception of Carney and Davies perhaps.

O'Connor/Mac/Joynt/KC/Harris are all blatantly Lancs/Yorks lads.

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What's the rumpus, Tom? [quote="Pemps":1dso5atj]I can't confirm Bennett's exact words but I believe they were along the lines of "Strewth Ian, I wouldn't touch him with yours. He's a flammin' Gala". [/quote:1dso5atj] [quote="Wigan Peer":1dso5atj]I keep my bin under 30mph to avoid fines... :CURTAIN:[/quote:1dso5atj] [quote="MattyB":1dso5atj]you cant tell me they are all busting for a turd. [/quote:1dso5atj] Please see for me if she's wearing a coat so warm To keep her from the howlin' winds.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_44075.jpg



Quote: FearTheVee "They would all have played for England if there was no GB equivalent, with the exception of Carney and Davies perhaps.

O'Connor/Mac/Joynt/KC/Harris are all blatantly Lancs/Yorks lads.'"



And that is exactly the reason we need Team GB.

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Quote: tugglesf78 "And that is exactly the reason we need Team GB.'"


I don't follow.

The fact is that most of the players you quoted are English.

We can form make believe teams with Chris Joynt playing for Ireland, Cunningham playing for Wales, Richards playing for Ireland, Briers playing for Wales etc etc but the fact is it's all just one big cover up.

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