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| Lets all queue up and have a go shall we??
How on earth is Sam supposed to be effective when the forwards in front of him are being bullied, the halfbacks don't play there for their clubs and the structures in place to allow the fullback to be effective in this team aren't there?
Australia were better disciplined than we were with the ball and that is the main factor that caused the result.
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| Sam mainly got the ball with a full line of defence within a few metres of him and nobody to pass to. What's he meant to do, jump over the top of them?
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| Our pack wasn't bullied. Australia just did there homework on Sam and due to the dynamics of the game he wasn't as effective as normal.
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| It's never going to be easy playing in Australia against their National team, but young Tompkins, like many before him, has found out that Super League hype counts for nothing out here.
I don't know who supplies his boots, but someone needs to have a word. If a big part of your game consists of a left foot step, then you need a decent lenght of stud, or spend an embarrassing amount of time on your ass.
As for the England squad.... too many basics errors.... and I reckon this could be the worst tournament ever for us.
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| You clearly don't remember the 1999 Tri Nations when we were awful AND just beat the Burleigh Bears!!
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| Quote: DannyT "You clearly don't remember the 1999 Tri Nations when we were awful AND just beat the Burleigh Bears!!'"
Exactly I actually take a lot more from this tournament than the previous few, including the World Cup. We have done far worse with some of the players that people are crying out for such as Senior, Sinfield, Gleeson, Wellens etc.
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| What is Tomkins meant to do when he has a quick backrower like Thaiday bearing down on him, pretty much constantly? The only area he could have improved was to play a more natural fullback role attacking the ball in the air to give better field position. Seeing as he isn't a natural fullback, it would be grossly unfair to expect him to do so.
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| Quote: Famous "Exactly I actually take a lot more from this tournament than the previous few, including the World Cup. We have done far worse with some of the players that people are crying out for such as Senior, Sinfield, Gleeson, Wellens etc.'"
We've suffered from a lack of ball retention in the two games so far. When we've actually had the ball I think we've looked dangerous on occasions, especially when we suddenly decide to chance our arm a bit. I still think Gleeson would've significantly improved us but the coach made his decision and went with it. We are still weaker on defence than the Aussies, too many times we don't get in front of them. and tackle side on.
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| Quote: DannyT "We've suffered from a lack of ball retention in the two games so far. When we've actually had the ball I think we've looked dangerous on occasions, especially when we suddenly decide to chance our arm a bit. I still think Gleeson would've significantly improved us but the coach made his decision and went with it. We are still weaker on defence than the Aussies, too many times we don't get in front of them. and tackle side on.'"
Spot on
I've been particularly impressed by the speed of our get-out sets, only to end up disappointed by a silly handling error or poor kick. Even the most basic plays seem beyond some of our players when they are up against a top defence.
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| He needs good service. at Wigan he makes a lot of meters and breaks from the run around move we used all year. Hes not going to run over anyone and just passing him the ball with a line of defenders set in front of him isnt the way to utilise him.
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| Quote: BillyRhino "It's never going to be easy playing in Australia against their National team, but young Tompkins, like many before him, has found out that Super League hype counts for nothing out here.
I don't know who supplies his boots, but someone needs to have a word. If a big part of your game consists of a left foot step, then you need a decent lenght of stud, or spend an embarrassing amount of time on your ass.
As for the England squad.... too many basics errors.... and I reckon this could be the worst tournament ever for us.'"
its hardly hype when you're the best player in the league
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| Size wise he doesn't look much different to Lockyer, who hasn't done too badly in the game. Probably safe to say it's not a limiting factor.
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| Quote: JordanWarriors "its hardly hype when you're the best player in the league'"
surely Pat Richards is better.
I don't think so. But apparently others do
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| The best British player in a decade....
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| He didn't get used right today and the time we tried to bring him into the game they shut him down mabye the best thing we could have done was use him more of a dummy runner but it's done with now
People on about his size if he was bigger his game wouldn't be the same he's so niggly and thats what hurts teams his speed off the mark is second to none he didn't get young player of the year twice and in the top 3 for m.o.s for nothing
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