He saved us from relegation and moved us up the table, put us into semi-finals and gave us a hope of winning a trophy. He has built the foundations with which we can build on. For that I am truly grateful.

I am not sure what you mean by that but Higham's replacement has not been any better so if Noble thought the reaction from some against the move was wrong we have seen that at best this season it has been out of the frying pan and into the fire.



The only reason we were divided on Noble is the stubborn refusal of some to see what IL clearly saw as the problems with Nobles tenure here.

Noble got the support of 99% of the fans when he arrived and it only went down hill when what happened in 2008 followed what happened in 2007 and 2009 followed what happened in 2008. Some were quicker to spot the problems than others or perhaps a better way to put it is they were not prepared to brush what they saw under the carpet so readily just because they thought Noble was a nice chap, talked the talk, what happened in 2006 or whatever.

I can't get my head around the fact some on here were still calling for him to be given a new deal beyond this season.

Dave

And if the same thing happens again in 2010?

I have no problem with BN and respect him for stabilising the club. However, I think IL was 100% right to make the change. He has been very patient after 3 years of failure.

The winning culture that Waney demands is what built Wigan into a great team. It will not happen overnight. It will be a gradual thing.

I do not believe our current squad can match Leeds so we need to improve gradually. As fans we need to recognise this and be patient.

I don't know what Piggy has to do with this, this was talking about Higham not Piggy. Basically BN and both IL when talking to them said he wasn't good enough to be our starting hooker and there are others to back me up, BN actually had someone else in mind other than Piggy but IL went for the cheaper option, BN actually wanted Ennis who hadn't signed for the Bulldogs at this stage before we announced the signing of the pig. I'm a big Ennis fan and think he would have been exactly what we needed, but I'm still more than happy with piggy over Higham as Higham has to many flaws in his game that out weighed his positives.

I wasn't overly impressed with the accusations of hypocrisy from some levelled at the majority of fans who gave BN is fully deserved ovation last week. Regardless of the fact the same majority felt it was time for a change doesn't detract from the points made by jjb10.

Agreed. But I also think that we need to get over Brian Noble now. He's gone and we have a new man at the helm.

Your continued inability to see anyones point to view, and imply EVERYONE but you is wrong is getting really tiresome.
Have respect for different views, you just might learn something.

The only reason we were divided on Noble is the stubborn refusal of some to see what IL clearly saw as the problems with Nobles tenure here

Funny people not agreeing.

Maybe if IL had actually had a word with Noble about the unfitness of the players and asked him to rectify or even for an explaination as to the course of events.

That would make me happier than the guy owning the club slagging the players and EX coach off in the national press IMPO just to justify the decision to replace BN

But all water under the bridge as we have another new regime in place as now isntead of leading the pack we are follwing the example of SAINTS and LEEDS if they replace there coaches after three years then that muct be GOOD !

I really wish the new coaches well and hope the fans give them a chance as we may go backwards AGAIN before we can go forward

You are quite correct sir

Agreed, also stuck in that car park, feeling a lot better than last week,
Hope Mike Maquire was watching tonight because that is where we need to be this time next year.

I always go that car park and with bigger crowds it has never been that bad. I dont know what the problem was?

It will be the same getting out of OT next year

If we are there , I bet there are no empty seats!!

I bet you are right, don't tell Catalancs!