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Quote: AJ "When IL resigned Tommy he stated long term he sees Tommy at 9, Tommy himself has said this, so why did we sign Riddell and then give Tommy a 3year deal, why not sign a 7 to go with Riddell or not sign Piggy at all.

Another example of botched recruitment by IL.'"


Agreed. I think it was the WC which highlighted to IL and Tommy that he is far more effective as a 9 than a 7, he really had problems as a 7 in the WC. Before than I don't think it had crossed IL's mind, hence the signing of Piggy.

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Quote: andyed-wiganrl "Rubbish. If leuleui is a problem we could do with another 16 problems in the team like him.

Perhaps because tommy is a 9 and not a seven. Hes an opportunist player and not a controlling half back, which is why we need a class controling organising 7 to play with sam and tommy needs to move to 9. Thats the management and clubs problem not leuleui's!

Its not tommys fault hes in the wrong position. IMO tommy is far from the list of problems we have at wigan....If we had 17 players with the attitude and passion of Leuleui we'd be a much better team.

For me Tommy is one of the best overseas players we've had at the club because he is one of the few that plays like a wigan lad.....did you see the determination and passion in his eyes when he scored yesterday to put us back in the game......The only adopted wiganer who rivals BD for that in my eyes and for me I would be happy if tommy saw the rest of his career out with us!!'"


You've missed the point here pal.
His attitude and effort isn't in question, just him as a 7.

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What's the rumpus, Tom? [quote="Pemps":1dso5atj]I can't confirm Bennett's exact words but I believe they were along the lines of "Strewth Ian, I wouldn't touch him with yours. He's a flammin' Gala". [/quote:1dso5atj] [quote="Wigan Peer":1dso5atj]I keep my bin under 30mph to avoid fines... :CURTAIN:[/quote:1dso5atj] [quote="MattyB":1dso5atj]you cant tell me they are all busting for a turd. [/quote:1dso5atj] Please see for me if she's wearing a coat so warm To keep her from the howlin' winds.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_44075.jpg



Quote: andyed-wiganrl "Rubbish. If leuleui is a problem we could do with another 16 problems in the team like him.

Perhaps because tommy is a 9 and not a seven. Hes an opportunist player and not a controlling half back, which is why we need a class controling organising 7 to play with sam and tommy needs to move to 9. Thats the management and clubs problem not leuleui's!

Its not tommys fault hes in the wrong position. IMO tommy is far from the list of problems we have at wigan....If we had 17 players with the attitude and passion of Leuleui we'd be a much better team.

For me Tommy is one of the best overseas players we've had at the club because he is one of the few that plays like a wigan lad.....did you see the determination and passion in his eyes when he scored yesterday to put us back in the game......The only adopted wiganer who rivals BD for that in my eyes and for me I would be happy if tommy saw the rest of his career out with us!!'"


%100 agree.

The try yesterday was the highlight of the day for me.

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Quote: Last Son of Wigan "You've missed the point here pal.
His attitude and effort isn't in question, just him as a 7.'"


Not really.....surely if tommy as a seven is in question then this thread should be entitled....'Noble's Selection and Wigans Recruitment Policy....biggest problem at wigan' not Tommy Leuleui!!

If we would have signed a class Scrum Half like Orford / Thurston in the off season, never bought Riddell and put Tommy Hooker all year I would think we would now be at Wembley and easily in the top 4 in the league......Instead we're out the cup, out the race for the top 4, and the season looks like its over, have one class hooker playing half back, one reasonably average but overweight hooker who struggles to do 20 minutes and no 7!!!
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If your looking to attribute blame for the situation that Tommy and Wigan are in then at least get it right and dont blame it at one of the hardest working most consistent players in the club!!

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What's the rumpus, Tom? [quote="Pemps":1dso5atj]I can't confirm Bennett's exact words but I believe they were along the lines of "Strewth Ian, I wouldn't touch him with yours. He's a flammin' Gala". [/quote:1dso5atj] [quote="Wigan Peer":1dso5atj]I keep my bin under 30mph to avoid fines... :CURTAIN:[/quote:1dso5atj] [quote="MattyB":1dso5atj]you cant tell me they are all busting for a turd. [/quote:1dso5atj] Please see for me if she's wearing a coat so warm To keep her from the howlin' winds.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_44075.jpg



Quote: Last Son of Wigan "You've missed the point here pal.
His attitude and effort isn't in question, just him as a 7.'"


True, but the lad can only play where he is told to.

The balme lies at BNs feet. but then again this is just one of a multitude of problems we have at the momment with player selection, tactical and motivational issues.

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His kick for the Hicks try deserved everything it got. F*cking shocking kick when we were 7 down.

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Quote: tugglesf78 "%100 agree.

The try yesterday was the highlight of the day for me.'"


Tommy playing full time at 9 would be the best optioon. He is devestating in and around the ruck when scooting out of acting half. We need this kind of go forward and require a creative 7 to play along side Sam in my opinion

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Quote: tugglesf78 "True, but the lad can only play where he is told to.

The balme lies at BNs feet. but then again this is just one of a multitude of problems we have at the momment with player selection, tactical and motivational issues.'"


Yes I agree.

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All Wigans points yesterday came when Riddell was on the field. The
majority of Wire points came when Riddell was off.

He is a far better 9 than Tommy. The complete swap round when Riddell
went off caused disruption. It's just a shame that Mickey Mac was unavailable.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "All Wigans points yesterday came when Riddell was on the field. The
majority of Wire points came when Riddell was off.

He is a far better 9 than Tommy. The complete swap round when Riddell
went off caused disruption. It's just a shame that Mickey Mac was unavailable.'"


I thought Riddell had a great game yesterday, made good metres from runs from dummy half, put himself out in defence as well.

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If Leuleui was moved to hooker who would play at scrum-half for you?

Interesting that IL sees Leuleui as a hooker long term. What exactly are IL's credentials in relation to player development. I thought he use to put on shows and run pubs didn't realise he was an expert RL coach.

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You do need a better halfback to partner Tomkins, if you look at potential halfback pairings for next year then Wigan are well down the pecking order.

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dont worry wire sign good hookers and play at 7 we do it all time

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If Tommy is to stay at the club, it has to be at 9 for me.

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He spent much of his time yesterday at 9 and was ineffective.

Personally i think he has been playing well and complementing ST quite nicely of late. I am happy yo go into next year with him at 7, especially when you consider we need to invest up front, although that seems unlikely to happen if IFL is to be believed.

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