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think we'd all like as many wiganers in the team as possible.

however, when push comes to shove and pat comes back from injury youd be hard pressed not to drop goulding given how dangerous amos is

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Quote: pk "think we'd all like as many wiganers in the team as possible.

however, when push comes to shove and pat comes back from injury youd be hard pressed not to drop goulding given how dangerous amos is'"

Depends whether Roberts finds his old form or not, he looked far from his best at the weekend even if he did get two walk-ins.

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Charnley will just get better IMO, if Gleeson or Carmont gets injured throughout the season they will find it hard to get their place back, ala the Amos/Goulding situation last year.

For 2012 I think the only signing we need to make is a Halfback/Hooker depending on where Leuluai will be playing, unless Deacon plays on for another year... ?

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[quote="Frank Zappa":1sacjrvf]Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.[/quote:1sacjrvf] [quote="The_Enforcer":1sacjrvf]Most idiotic post ever goes to Grimmy..... The way to restart should be an arm wrestle between a designated player from each side.[/quote:1sacjrvf]:



Quote: 19 Leagues "Charnley will just get better IMO, if Gleeson or Carmont gets injured throughout the season they will find it hard to get their place back, ala the Amos/Goulding situation last year.

For 2012 I think the only signing we need to make is a Halfback/Hooker depending on where Leuluai will be playing, unless Deacon plays on for another year... ?'"

Deacs will move into coaching after this season, you don't have to have insider knowledge to know time is catching up with him. Next year I reckon the 17 will be something like:

1 Roberts
2 Goulding
3 Gleeson
4 Charnley/Pryce
5 Richards
6 Sam
7 Leuluai
8 Fielden
9 McIlorum
10 Prescott
11 Hansen/Hoffman
12 Joel
13 O'Loughlin

14 Lima
15 Finch
16 Mossop
17 Farrell

with Hock roatating at prop

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Quote: Grimmy "Deacs will move into coaching after this season, you don't have to have insider knowledge to know time is catching up with him. Next year I reckon the 17 will be something like

Cant see Sam moving from FB any time soon. For me its Sam at 1, Finch starting at 6 and Amos/Goulding fighting for the 2 jersey.

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Quote: WARRIORCRAIG "Cant see Sam moving from FB any time soon. For me its Sam at 1, Finch starting at 6 and Amos/Goulding fighting for the 2 jersey.'"



Me too;

1. Sam
2. Goulding
3. Gleeson
4. Charnley/Pryce
5. Richards
6. Finch
7. Leuluai
8. Fielden
9. McIlorum
10. Lima
11. Hansen
12. Joel
13. O'Loughlin

14. Hock
15. New Hooker
16. Mossop
17. Farrell

IMO Hock and Mossop will overtake Prescott once this season is over, he will struggle to get a new contract unless he comes out with some unbelievable form. Coley will be a massive loss but I think Hock can fill the gap he leaves.

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Seems like a good kid. Very focused, very driven and has a strong work ethic.

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Quote: Grego "charnley looks a better prospect at centre now than goulding ever has done imo. If carmont is going to retire at the end of the season the club needs to make a decision as to who will be his replacement by mid way through this season in my view. In my opinion we have 3 options. Put charnley there, try to develop joel as a centre or sign a ready made big name. Personally i hope charnley kicks on this season and stakes his claim.'"


If we want Josh Charnley to take over from George Carmont then he needs games at centre. At the moment, I can't see him displacing Carmont from the side at centre (or Gleeson) unless one of them gets injured. Possible spell on loan might have to be taken, but the lad needs Super League game time if he is to take over from Carmont next year.

Personally I hope Carmont stays with us another season and Charnley/Marsh/Goulding/Pryce have another year to stake a claim for the spot and rack up some more first team rugby.

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When Charnley was at HKR he played right centre.
From that I always thought he was the long term replacement for Gleeson. Agree he does need first team games though.
If Carmont went at the end of this year then Goulding to 4 and Amos at 2. That still leaves Charnley on the outer and us again wondering where his games will come from.

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Quote: Father Ted "When Charnley was at HKR he played right centre.
From that I always thought he was the long term replacement for Gleeson. Agree he does need first team games though.
If Carmont went at the end of this year then Goulding to 4 and Amos at 2. That still leaves Charnley on the outer and us again wondering where his games will come from.'"


Goulding isn't a centre, he's far too selfish.

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Quote: P-J "Goulding isn't a centre, he's far too selfish.'"


I agree. Decent winger for sure, I've just never EVER seen why he is supposed to be a natural centre. Similar to what I've seen from Marsh so far (although obviously Marsh has a lot more to prove generally, and could well develop more).

IMO, I've already seen more potentially in Charnley than I have in Goulding. Charnley went to Hull KR and stood out, did Goulding really stand out that much when he went to Salford? Or was he just decent?

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Goulding was initially played as a centre when he 1st broke in to the team and has since been moved to wing. Nothing I have seen suggests he will move back to centre whereas IMO Charnley will be a long term replacement for either Carmont or Gleeson.

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Charnley has always struck me as much more of a winger than a centre. Marsh is also being preferred at centre than Charnley so I am guessing that Maguire and Wane see Charnley as more of a winger too. I think Goulding will replace Carmont with Charnley getting the wing spot. Either way I dont think Charnley will be ready for the centre spot next season and would like him to get a lot more game time first. I certainly cant see Marsh getting it.

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If Pryce does not step up this year then we need to be looking to recruit a centre for next year in my opinion. Any other possible replacements are 2 years off first team week in week out and Goulding will never be good enough for the centre birth.

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