I've said for weeks that there is no way I would rule out Saints. They just won't give anybody an easy play off game. If you play Salford at home, I feel you'll win and then likely come here and I can't lie, I would feel extremely nervous. There's no arrogance in saying we're in a better side but we know full well play off games are different and teams struggle to really open up and play their natural game and that brings Saints right in to it. It'll take a couple of off days and those play off nerves grabbing a couple of sides but I see no reason why Saints couldn't win it. The media seem to want to build a 2 horse race. That was between Warrington and HKR a few weeks ago and now it's between Wigan and HKR but I honestly think it's a really open race. Wigan are the favourites, no doubts about that but I think all of Wire, HKR and Saints could also win it. I don't see Salford, Leigh, Catalans etc having enough tbh.

There's no doubt in my mind we have a Wigan v Saints semi final coming up in a couple of weeks and the form of each team in the regular season will be redundant at that point.

I hate the lack of any tangible reward for finishing 1st or 2nd outside of home advantage. You can argue a week off does you more harm than good at times. When you finish in the top 2 you should get two chances to get to the final as we had with the old top 6 system. It would also extend the playoff series by a week.

And this has nothing to do with any Wigan bias - in 2018 Saints finished top - 6 points clear of Wigan and 15 points clear of Warrington. They lose one game against Warrington and are out which was farcical in my view.

You can lose the first game in the NRL but then you have to win another game to qualify for the semi final. Not a fan of that either - I firmly believe the old top 6 system we had in the mid 2000s was the best one.

The NRL has more teams, though, so top 8 doesn't seem unreasonable. I agree that top 6 should be enough for the size of SL. But I doubt they'd go back to that because of "make every game matter", unfortunately.

Where and when would this hyping up take place and to what real value?

Just listen to the commentary and how they will be saying its the greatest super league season ever because there is all to play for going into the final round of matches. Salford sending a virtual reserve side, means that the hype for KR and top spot is virtually gone (without counting our chickens)

in reality, apart from Wigan and KR, the rest have been hit and miss all season, even Wigan havent been great as we've been managing our efforts to peak for WCC, CC and now a tilt at the GF. Its now left sides in 3-7 with something to play for, so sky will be hyping it up the best they can

I prefer a top 5 play off system. It encourages clubs to be honest and rewards success.

If it does turn out to be Wigan v Saints, very likely IMO, in the semi at least for once it should be a good crowd on.
The I'm saving my money for the final excuse really does go out the window for the derby, should easily be 20k+

The top 5 system doesn't work IMO as it creates the likelihood of a repeat fixture in the same playoff series. Remember the pitiful crowd against Salford in 2019? Getting smashed by Saints the week before won't have helped but playing the same team we played a fortnight earlier won't attract many through the gates.

Agree with this.

The current system is the best we've had imo.

The others are too convoluted with second chances and repeat fixtures. Of course it sucks if you've been the best team all season then lose one play off game and you're out but ultimately you have to be better than that to win and I think that's reasonable.

Also, I will be terrified ahead of a potential Saints semi. Obviously I think we win like 80% of the time but if they have a full team they'll put up a fight. I'm still traumatised by losses against the Rhinos when they looked like they were cooked in the 2010s.

Not in my view it doesn’t reward success enough, as Leeds have proved in the past.

Much prefer the system of win a game and through to the final or lose and get a second chance as was the case years ago.

How do you mean?

What have Leeds proved in the past?

That under the current system it is too easy to win a GF from sixth place.