No, he would have gone to the NRL had Noble not left Bradford.



Rads retired whilst Millward was there IIRC, why would he have comeback for him, he came back to help Noble.



Barrett was OOC so I dont see what that has to do with Millwards dad.

Have you read Radders book? There's no way he would have come back to Wigan with Millward anywhere near the club.
Barrett had already signed for Wigan 12 months before he arrived.

12 months before he arrived when Millward came, yes I did read the book.

wasnt out of contract had a year to run, remember St George and Wigan both paid him in his first year at Wigan.

Fielden would have come for that kind of money like he did, the NRL would not have been able to get anywhere near the cash thrown at him so dont be so naive.

I doubt very much radlinski would have come out of retirement for millward, I even doubt millward would have asked him he didn't seem to respect Kris.

Like I was saying Noble just didnt come in with the same team and it was fixed new signings came in and dead wood was removed, remember we smashed the salary cap that year.

As I have said before on this board we only changed the squad in 2006 by adding two players and a new coach. There can't have been that much wrong with it or we would have still got relegated. Noble got a bunch of demoralised players to play much more to their potential and we avoided the drop. So he gets credit for that.

If we get a new coach he may also get a couple of new players (I can't see it being any more and it may be none at all) and if he gets the rest of the current team to play to its potential then we will improve. So if he gets more out of this side than Noble has done (as Noble got more out of the side he inherited in 2006 than Millward did) I don't see why Noble would take any credit for that just as Millward didn't in 2006.

These sound very similar scenarios to me. A coach inherits an under performing side and improves it. If it annoys people this being pointed out that isn't my problem - it is only an opinion after all.

Dave

I don't think many people actually hate BN, do they?

I feel very strongly that we need to make changes in a number of areas, including head coach, but I have no personal animosity towards him or anyone else, we just need to change things if we are going to make progress.

And pretty much exactly what I was trying to say in a thread I created a couple of months ago entitled "Turning the Ship around".

I tried to point out that the change in fotunes didnt't happen overnight from relegation to Champions - It happened in small stages AND sometimes we had to take a backward step to get there i.e selling our best player in Fairbairn to create funds etc to strengthen the squad first.

Some poster say Graham Lowe!
I say Maurice Bamford, Alex Murphy, Clarke/McCinnes & Then Lowe!

Some say Andy Gregory
I say Jinkin Jimmy, Gary Stevens,Keith Holden, Mike Ford then Andy Gregory!

There are many other parallels but in essence the stories the same.

It Took Mo 6 years to win a CC and 8 to win a League title without the Hinderence of Salary Cap etc and he did it IMO in small steps!

It's strange the way support for Brian Noble seems to be crystalising the closer we get to his 'termination date'.

Is this just a Wigan thing, do you think?

I detected nothing but frustration with Noble early this season when we were losing every other match and looking like we weren't going to make the play-offs.

Why do some people feel that a poor start to the season and a strong finish is the way forward?

What I mean by hate, is calling for his head, saying he's been sacked and general whinging ... Ect

I've said previously that I think a lot of people are just too nice!



They are grateful to BN for helping save us from relegation and they think we should give him more time, probably feeling guilty about the way we have dispensed with coaches prior to BN. Sometimes, though, tough decisions need to be taken for the good of the club.

BN may be a smashing chap, but for me he's had his chance and whilst he will be remembered, together with Dobbo, for saving Wigan's bacon that season, his time as Wigan coach really hasn't been the success that we all (BN included I'm sure) had hoped for. Perhaps a fresh start at a new club would be the best thing for him, too.