Current Saints players I like/respect even though I know I shouldn't:

- Cunningham: great player: inspirational captain and he has done bloody well to be at the top for such a long time.

- Graham: never gives less than 100% and one of the best props in the competition.

In stark contrast, I can't stand Long or Wellens. Both can be brilliant but I don't like their attitudes and I feel the latter has been lucky to play in the team he does (well as lucky as you can be having to play for St Helens. ).

Wiganers I have coveted despite myself;

Hanley - all time sporting great IMHO

Offiah/Robinson - always a frisson when they got the ball at their peak, you always wondered if they were going to score

Botica - rarely seen a more metronomic kicker

The fat bar stewards argument.

Get hold of the 1962 tour dvd.
Round, Boston, Ashton, Fox, Sullivan, Bolton, Murphy,
Watson, Sayer, McTigue, Huddart, Edgar and Johnny Whiteley.

All superb gifted players.

Fair enough Rogues, but they would get their ar$es handed to them today.


Now, ofc it's difficult to compare across generations.

However, I feel that Hanley, Betts, Goodway, Bell


would easily slot into todays SL


I cannot say the same about the team you cited.


*shrugs*

That's because same as with Murphy, You never saw them!

Are you not answering my question either or are you perceptive enough to get what I'm going to reply with!

Willie Horne - Best player ever that bloke and a true British legend Captained GB when we could beat he Aussies en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_Horne The argument as to whether past players would cope in todays game is a non starter for me because had those guys been around today then their physique, skills & mentality would be entirely different.

Willie Horne - Best player ever that bloke and a true British legend Captained GB when we could beat he Aussies en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_Horne The argument as to whether past players would cope in todays game is a non starter for me because had those guys been around today then their physique, skills & mentality would be entirely different.

er sorry m8, I will always try to reply to questions on here.

What was it again?

Best Scrum Half Gregory or Leaulia???

Now I know your taking the Mick with your flippant "What was it again" Attitude, but you won't get off the hook so easy!

Honestly m8, I am not.


I am just drinking whisky, responding to multiple MMS and IM and it's all a tad confusing


Ok so to answer ur question.............

I would say that Lulu would murder Greg in most aspects of the game.


However, Greg would be the more creative imo, and his fitness failings would be covered up by the rest of the team.


In short, I would rather have Greg at 7 in the current Wigan side.


Then again I think TL is a 9 not a 7......................

Well whether you would call me previous comments "uneducated" is a matter of opinion.


You asked me a question, I gave you an answer.


Now had the question been "would I prefer Greg versus Andrew Johns?"



.......


Johns by a country mile.





Would I prefer Johns to Murphy


Well from the (admitedly brief) glimpses of what I have seen..............

Johns by a mile.


I'm not sure what point ur making?

That a player from 20 years ago who wasnt as fit etc etc etc playing against (Again in your words) Part time Beer bellied Neanderthals was better than a current World Cup Winning Internation Sooper Dooper League Player!

You based your argument on Johns being Better than Murphy, despite never seeing Murphy play, based on the logic that Murphy only played agains Part time unfit pub players!

Your opinion of who was the better player is that, your opinion and one that your entitled to have!

Your logic behind why you made that decision was/is complete and utter drivel that was disrespectful and ill informed to say the very least!

That Brett Kenny eh. All he had to play against on tour were big fat c####s like Neil Courtney and (jeez) Paul Rose. Gimme Lee Briers, he plays against full time athletes does Lee. Proper stand off.

On the original subject, though I dont think he was the best centre ever, I always liked Dave Stephenson. Did a job on Miles in the WCC. Mind you Miles only played against fat g#ts, not like that Michael Platt, now theres a centre, and if they scrapped that communist salary cap EVERYONE would be legends except Saints, especially Wigan blah blah blah....nurse NURSE!!

Power to the people.

When you say "World cup player" don't forget TL played 9.


Now re-read your post.

Andy your forgetting though, Murphy once played for Saints, so in Mr Kenny's eyes nothing good can be said about him. I blame the salary cap if im honest, It's the only reason we are where we are now apparently.