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| Quote: bazdev "I suspect you will be in for a surprise. When he broke his leg he said Wane had been on the phone to him to make sure he would be fit for the world cup'"
Seriously Baz I'd be more than amazed if Wane selects him.
The guy would ruin the squad.
Even if Lomax doesn't play I just can't see Hastings even being considered.
He's not a team player, self centred and disruptive.
Apart from that he'd be a good selection.
Smith is the guy who will play if Lomax isn't available and I think is a near certainty for the squad.
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| Quote: TheWarringtonWolve69 "If Saints stay relatively injury free they will win number 5. The only team that comes anywhere near...on paper is Warrington'"
Agree. 2023 is the year of the wolf.
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For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.
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| Quote: Magic Superbeetle "I’m genuinely curious why you think this.
From a Saints fans perspective we have had one of the worst years for managing injuries since the early 2000s. We were effectively on cruise control until Easter, but lost Dodd on Good Friday, followed by Bennison the following week vs Cas and then Lomax did his ruptured his bicep against Salford before the semi final. Hopoate has been a liability all year and was supposed to cover injuries, Makinson and Mata’utia were constantly in and out all year innocuously lost Percival for 4 months. Literally only Hurrell and Welsby made it through the year in the backs, and only Roby, Lees and Batchelor in the pack.
Admittedly the quality of our juniors coming through with the likes of Davies and Royle haven’t been as strong as recent years (ironically using Welsby and Dodd for cover) but expect that to be sorted next year with the likes of Archer, Delaney, Buckley all being another year older. I expect us the be better equipped for dealing with an injury crisis than we were this year.
Getting Dodd back will be like a new signing, and our average points scored with Dodd was 12 points higher than without him. Wing is obviously a question mark with Grace leaving (though arguably Bennison is another year older and hasn’t let anyone down). If we sign a complete dud then yeah we’re weaker overall, but no more so than we were this year.
I remember a post on here around this time last year (maybe 18 months ago) declaring they would like to see how we would perform with 7 out. Well up until the playoffs we regularly had 7/8/9 injured or banned, and that’s not including people like Lomax who in other circumstances wouldn’t have played through. It’s been one of those years where everything that could go wrong seemed to.
Players like Makinson, Roby, Lomax may be another year older but the they’re all more machine than man at times. The qualities they bring to the game aren’t generally built around speed, so with the exception of Roby I suspect they probably have a good 2-3 years left in them minimum. I have seen a post/Twitter comment somewhere suggesting Walmsley fell off this year, but I couldn’t scoff hard enough at that suggestion - it’s just with Lees and Paasi he’s stood out less.
I get the question mark over Wellens. I think any Saints fan would be lying if they didn’t say they feared another Cunningham situation. But everything I have ever heard out of the club says he’s been the best coach at the club for years and have to trust he’s ready for it. His assistant is critical in my eyes. If it’s Long I think I have more concern, but the rumour I heard was Laurent Frayssinous, which is a bit left field but think would be an excellent appointment in my opinion.
I could understand “other clubs catching up” to Saints, I’m not sure I get dropping off?'"
Matty Smith?
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "Matty Smith?'"
Thought he was getting the 19s gig with Ian Talbot being promoted to Wellens other assistant?
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3076_1671446335.jpg SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS
For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
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| Quote: Magic Superbeetle "Thought he was getting the 19s gig with Ian Talbot being promoted to Wellens other assistant?'"
Not sure, just something I was told on Sunday. He's a good mate of Wellens though. It was Wellens who persuaded him to leave Wigan and go back to Saints.
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| Quote: Egg Chasing "Agree. 2023 is the year of the wolf.'"
Possibly. As I said, On paper they have a strong team. Definitely up there with Saints and miles ahead of Wigan. It depends if their signings click or not
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| Quote: TheWarringtonWolve69 "Possibly. As I said, On paper they have a strong team. Definitely up there with Saints and miles ahead of Wigan. It depends if their signings click or not'"
Wigan are not miles behind anyone next year least of all Wire.
With two proper centres and French staying they are a massive threat.
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| Quote: FearTheVee "Wigan are not miles behind anyone next year least of all Wire.
With two proper centres and French staying they are a massive threat.'"
Yeah right ok. They have a shocking pack which they haven’t improved.
They are miles behind being a proper SL challenger. Their fans have been saying they are the best team in SL since they last won it nearly 5 years ago. Wasting their money on a winger isn’t going to change things. To get battered at home in the semi by a team Saints beat with ease in the final
Shows how far behind they are. They are a good 3-4 years away from being close to winnjng again. At least Warrington have addressed their deficiencies and acted on it
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| Quote: TheWarringtonWolve69 "Possibly. As I said, On paper they have a strong team. Definitely up there with Saints and miles ahead of Wigan. It depends if their signings click or not'"
Do you honestly think so? I am willing to bet, with you, that Saints and Wigan finish above Wire in 2023.
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| Quote: Zig "Do you honestly think so? I am willing to bet, with you, that Saints and Wigan finish above Wire in 2023.'"
I don’t bet. Only losers and druggies gamble but I am of the opinion that Warrington have a far stronger team on papers. Just go back over the years on the VT and my predictions have always been 100% correct
Next year will be no different
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| Quote: TheWarringtonWolve69 "Just go back over the years on the VT and my predictions have always been 100% correct'"
which a/c should we check for?
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| Quote: TheWarringtonWolve69 "I don’t bet. Only losers and druggies gamble but I am of the opinion that Warrington have a far stronger team on papers. Just go back over the years on the VT and my predictions have always been 100% correct
Next year will be no different'"
Apart from Salford not finishing bottom
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| Quote: TheWarringtonWolve69 "I don’t bet. Only losers and druggies gamble but I am of the opinion that Warrington have a far stronger team on papers. Just go back over the years on the VT and my predictions have always been 100% correct
Next year will be no different'"
sure you predicted Wigan would lose to the second best team in history in the CC semi
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "Matty Smith?'"
I was out with someone close to Matty on Friday and they said Matty will be overseeing one of the younger sides
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| Quote: FearTheVee "Wigan are not miles behind anyone next year least of all Wire.
With two proper centres and French staying they are a massive threat.'"
I agree wire won't finish above Wigan, but please don't class King as a proper centre! He'd be better off in aussie rules as his ONLY strength is catching high bombs. Admittedly under price that was our only tactic so he looked half decent.
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