Before we decide to call for the end of players Wigan careers and say Peet has been "out coached" - stop and realise that a fat perma-tanned g!mp in purple literally gave them 14 points and 40 mins of calls.

We'll bounce back (very rare we lose two on the bounce) so onto the next one and I'm sure karma will catch up with the ref.

Undoubtedly however (& I've said this since before the season started) we need to make a mid season signing. Freshen it up, change what teams can expect from us etc.

On the plus side I thought we did well to fight our way back in the game after a dreadful start. We worked very hard in the second half and dominated territory but no cutting edge. Havard, Thornley and Miski were strong.

But no intensity in the opening half hour with some really slack stuff. Shorrocks had a bit of a shocker but we've probably been pushing our luck with him at 6. Powell is a painfully limited hooker at times. Farrell looks off the pace. Mago simply not good enough atm.

Hull wanted it more and we were miles off it in attack, but not a bad lesson and wake up call a fortnight out from the challenge cup.

Two points dropped but perspective is needed. It always looked like a banana skin tonight and it seemed everything conspired against us with the bounce of the ball, referee calls and the conditions.

Glad someone on here isn’t. Jesus the last few post you’d of thought we’d of been on the loosing streak

I wouldn’t say poor, they battled well in defence the second half, fair play to them.
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The Truman foul was great from their perspective, the perfect professional foul but from our perspective you feel something like that should almost be awarded a penalty try, the sin binning doesn’t help a great deal with 50 seconds left and then his Oscar performance while walking off the pitch to give his team mates a breather.

Im not overly worried, we managed to turn the game around after a poor start and being second best for half an hour, we win that game 9 times out of 10 imo, just our attack just isn’t clicking which can be expected with a second rower in the halves.

Dreadful isn’t it.

2 tries each in terrible conditions with 7 first teamers missing (Hull missing just Hoy) after 6 of our best players played just 5 days ago, after winning 6 games in a row including Saints and Wire.

People need perspective.

didnt see Thaler miss and tackles or drop any balls.....

The result won’t matter a jot to us in the long run but there is definitely concern building around a total lack of cutting edge close to the opposition try line. We’ll be so much more threatening from deep when Field is back but he’s not a guy who’ll pick a pass either and in the big games you need to build pressure and unlock a defence with a killer pass or a short kick. You get to Wembley or Old Trafford and it’s unlikely you go the length of the field for try’s.

What a weird post? How could he drop a ball? Tell you what he can and did do however - he can ignore two dropped balls from Hull, one of which lead directly up to their 1st try. He can also fabricate high shots and give them 2 points too.

Chicken and egg. We might have missed a few tackles, but also we shouldn't have been 10 out from our own line. We should have been 10 out from theirs with attacking ball. Big difference and all down to one see you next Tuesday in pink.

We’re in a great position and a far better position than we could’ve dreamed of prior to that Leigh game. We’d have all bit your hand off to win every game up until tonight. Even tonight, I thought the effort and guts to keep piling in during that second half was is a great sign for us. The worry for me going in to the season was around the pack but that’s eased a little and my only concern about our chances is if we can open teams up in the big games to come, when they’re tense and in the balance.

I think Harry Smith lacks that bit of innovation and subtlety close to the line. In hindsight Peet may as well have put Hampshire on the bench considering Nsemba was only trusted to play a couple of minutes.

No but he was horrific though. Poor calls on both sides.

Agree pretty much with NSW, yeah, we weren't great, and Shorrocks struggling in particular in the first half, but in the second half when he mishandled that pass, he at least recovered and put in a telling kick to force a drop-out, from which we eventually scored a try. We'll have Cust and Hampshire back soon enough. We'd all have bitten the hand off for one defeat and three wins from the last four games.

He definitely needs to work hard on his game close to the opposition line. He’s been fantastic for us this season and is developing his game nicely but everyone has things to work on.

Looked like a team full of players who had been on holiday last week.