Careless isn't the same as accidental. We can talk about whether he was careless/reckless, and if he was then he needs penalising and red carding given the severity of the offence, but an accidental kick is not a penalty no matter how many times people claim it as fact. I've just watched it back this morning, there is less than a second between Marshall dropping to the floor and Charnley making contact. I don't think it's even careless from Charnley, he's just chasing after a loose ball.

It's not so much the letter of the law, it's how they are interpreted, especially in the current climate on head injuries. We've all heard refs on mike say to players, I'm sorry, I realise it was accidental, but it's still a penalty.

couldn't have put it better myself Lam is getting more and more annoying as the season goes by!

The rule is very blunt. There’s no sub rules as I’m aware.
A kick, trip or strike is misconduct.
So it is dependent on the referees interpretation.
So did Charnley kick Marshall in the head, or was it contact with the head.
Certainly Charnley made no action to indicate a kicking motion.

If we're definitely running with Peet and Lockers next season, we may as well make that switch now.

We fluffed so many chances….. that’s not down to coaching, that’s down to players. The coaching is aimed to create chances, it’s the players job to convert them into points.

I think you are confusing chances with possesion in the Wire 25

So why are penalties given when a player carrying the ball slips before contact resulting in contact to the head from a defender attempting to tackle around waist height, but now hits the head because of the slip ?
Surely that is accidental??

Exactly my thoughts.

A mate of mine came for the first time since Wane was the Head Coach last night. His comments nailed it for me; he noticed straight away the intensity was incomparable to a few seasons ago.

Upon reflection this morning, I am increasingly frustrated. Warrington were extremely poor; they had not trained in 3 weeks but yet comfortably won in that second half. Yes, we were unlucky to go in at halftime behind but can you imagine the reaction in that 2nd half under Wane?

It's all well and good Lam stating time and time again that 'we are closer to who we are and want to be' but losing that game to that particular Warrington side was a new low for me. They had numerous players out injured/COVID-related and had a prop on one of their wings. I think we just have to hope to make the top 6 and go from there. We must hope that the likes of Hardaker, Field and Bateman make a huge difference. I'm not confident that they will.

Someone in the away end last night had a brilliant throwing arm! They managed to throw a bottle on to the pitch and it landed nearly on the 25! Classy.

I’m not. I’m responding to the OP.

It does happen and is very annoying as it appears to be a 100% given. I get the duty of care aspect, but the defender should be judged less harshly IMO, but I suppose that would require an interpretation by officials and we can all get into another round of debate especially when viewed in real time and slow motion

I didn't say it was the same I said covered under that rule. Like if a ball carrying player slips into a tacklers already committed position causing impact with the head on arm, which is often under a second and accidental as well, you even get refs saying and you must have witnessed "I know it's accidental but it's a penalty?" . I also don't think it's reckless or careless but it's interpretation is regular under that rule with any un deliberate head contact.
I also don't think that players slipping into contact should be a pen under the careless part of the rule, it's part and parcel of a high impact contact sport but if your going off how the rules are being judged it was obviously a pen, I don't know how you could see it any other way?

So you don't think it should be a penalty and neither do the officials. Sounds like the correct outcome was achieved. Seriously, it's daft this. It's like we're annoyed with the officials for not giving the wrong decision. Wire fans are laughing at us on their board over our reaction to this, and rightfully so.