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IMO Graham needs to get back to being a hard-working prop and worry less about being some kind of pseudo stand off. The way he runs he will get pasted every now and then - I expect to see him landed on his backside a fair amount in the RL. What he's always had is a fantastic workrate for a big guy and a bit of a rugby brain. Hopefully in the NRL he'll get back to basics and back to being a genuinely good prop.

FWIW I don't understand people getting upset at players who really can;t stand losing. If more GB/England players had that attitude we'd do a better job against Australia.

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Quote: wigan pie man "i agree.....when did you last see a ref march a side 10 metres further back?
seems to be a forgotten rule'"


Ganson is the only one i have seen do it recently .

Joel usually has a standing order for this with Ganson.

If they marched Graham back 10 meters every time he showed dissent , he would have been back in St Helens before the game finished .

When Wello and ginger were arguing with Silverwood before Pat took the penalty at the end the ref didn't stop the clock so Pat took his time . Good enough for both of them, serves them right. Graham should hve been off for what he called the ref. Silverwood heard it and just laughed at the wee boy .

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Quote: Edinburgh Warrior "Ganson is the only one i have seen do it recently .

Joel usually has a standing order for this with Ganson.

If they marched Graham back 10 meters every time he showed dissent , he would have been back in St Helens before the game finished .

When Wello and ginger were arguing with Silverwood before Pat took the penalty at the end the ref didn't stop the clock so Pat took his time . Good enough for both of them, serves them right. Graham should hve been off for what he called the ref. Silverwood heard it and just laughed at the wee boy .[/quote]

Hence why I don't rate Dick Silverwood as a ref.

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Graham, Wellens and Wilkin are murder for mouthing at the referee. It's not something I see alot from Wigan or Wire to be fair. I know Briers and O'Loughlin chat to the referee quite a bit, but none of them are as aggressive as Graham and co.

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Graham wasnt captain on Sat and so should not be talking to the ref!

Im certain had a certain player in the league done that other fans would be slating him!

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Quote: French Ray "Voluntary tackle anyone?'"

Actually, no. He collapsed. He was playing on injections in his neck due to a back injury (bulging disc) which meant he lost power to his legs. He also lost his sight during the match.

Mock all you want. He has more cajones than anyone on here.

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Quote: SaintsFan "Actually, no. He collapsed. He was playing on injections in his neck due to a back injury (bulging disc) which meant he lost power to his legs. He also lost his sight during the match.

Mock all you want. He has more cajones than anyone on here.'"
so what if he has more wooden storage boxes than any one else, why does that matter, i think the word you where looking for was COJONES

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Quote: SaintsFan "Actually, no. He collapsed. He was playing on injections in his neck due to a back injury (bulging disc) which meant he lost power to his legs. He also lost his sight during the match.

Mock all you want. He has more cajones than anyone on here.'"



Boohoo, maybe he shouldn't have played and played a healthy prop from your extensive squad...oh wait.

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Quote: Baked Bean Boogie "so what if he has more wooden storage boxes than any one else, why does that matter, i think the word you where looking for was COJONES'"


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If the referee had any bottle Graham would have been marched back so many times. Like early in the game when he kicks the ball away when we get a penalty. What was the need? Ok not picking it up is bad but its not doing anything wrong eg McIllorum when he pretended he was gonna pick it up then ran off but Graham actually kicks it away not only is it stupid it is incredibly petty and shows him up as a bit of a childish "spit your dummy out" kind of guy.

If he does this sort of thing in Australia the refs will destroy him and he wont improve as a player at all.

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Quote: SaintsFan "Actually, no. He collapsed. He was playing on injections in his neck due to a back injury (bulging disc) which meant he lost power to his legs. He also lost his sight during the match.

Mock all you want. He has more cajones than anyone on here.'"


thats just stpuid of both the club and the player,
playing with a bulging disk, is just stupid, stupid, and yet again stupid.

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Quote: truewiganer "thats just stpuid of both the club and the player,
playing with a bulging disk, is just stupid, stupid, and yet again stupid.'"


This.

There's nothing big or clever about it. If that's the seriousness of his injury then I hope he doesn't have a young family etc because in 10 years time he won't be able to enjoy it when he can't crawl out of bed.

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Quote: DannyT "This.

There's nothing big or clever about it. If that's the seriousness of his injury then I hope he doesn't have a young family etc because in 10 years time he won't be able to enjoy it when he can't crawl out of bed.'"


just shows his natural state

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Quote: Lippy "The game had not kicked off and he was at it. Wigan players standing in a circle just before KO. The Saints players lined up on half way, apart from one! What the hell did he think he or his team would gain from him standing close by trying to stair out or intimidate the Wigan players? Or was it just to wind the fans up? probably not but thats the only affect it had!
I have not watched the game back but the amount of times he waved his arms at the ref, it must have entered double figures.'"


Err finch looked like he was flicking a wasp away most of the game so you cant really comment there.

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Quote: Saint94 "Err finch looked like he was flicking a wasp away most of the game so you cant really comment there.'"


ahh what it actually was the fact he was playing with a bulging disk, whenever he moved or spoke it pressed on his spinal column resulting in his arms flailing around

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