I'd say little of both but full credit to hudds they can only play what's infront of them and at times ripped us apart.

The effort was there from saints today but the last 6/7 weeks looks to be taking it's toll now. Some players like Sia, Graham, roby, magennis have been putting in big stints for couple of month now and looking very tired.

Nobody at saints are making excuses. It's rugby and players get hurt. I just hope that come July we will have a full healthy fresh squad for the business end of the year.

Who would have missed out for the 7 or 8 you had missing?

Just like we had, when we beat them.

You don't need to. Eddie does it for you. And that's a big plus when he's more or less the voice of Super League.

We don't need to because we don't want to, its simple as that.

Thats a little short sighted mate. It's not just the numbers we had missing yesterday but the toll it's taking on the players.

You may have had 9 players missing when you bear hudds at their place but had you had 9 missing the 6 weeks before that ?

I'm guessing the irony of the above statement coming so soon after your previous one has completely swept by you?

If you're not using injuries as an excuse, then you don't just need to stop making the excuse - which you are currently doing very visibly - you need to totally stop talking about the injuries. It's as simple as that.

It was a bad loss to Catalan. It could have been worse though, we could have lost to Quins.

It's totally the opposite mate, I'm saying eddie and all at sky are getting carried away saying we have 10 players out, I'm saying we have about 7/8.

Read my posts mate, rugby league is tough game and injuries are part of the game.

In the long run I've no doubt we will be much stronger squad thru the current injury situation.

im sure there a point were wigan have had many injuries in the first team and you use that as an excuse as why you haven't performed every fan does. it like resting tomkins for the match against cas and you lose i bet everyone of your fans would say oh if sam was playing we would of won that game.

I'll tell you what I bet - that Eddie and Stevo wouldn't trumpet it as an excuse.

I find it pretty sad that you feel so strong about stevo and eddie not shouting how good Wigan are from the rooftops.

Why does it bother you so much?

Your the champions, you don't need silly media idiots to say how good you are.

Saying that, not all sky is anti Wigan, one is very pro Wigan in fact.

Why would that have been worse? 40+ points conceded is bad no matter who you play.