Craig Hall isn't actually that quick though. Some players are deceptively quick, Hall seems to be deceptively slow. He's fast enough to get by but his speed isn't his boggest asset.

Is it just me or is anyone seriously thinking Saints will struggle this year?

Already from this game they have had a few injuries. If they dont have Graham for the next few weeks then going forward they are fooked. Also the organisation of the team in attack is solely dependant on Kyle Eastmond, and from what I have seen of him nothing suggests to me he can guide a team around the park. I think he is more suited to centre as he is an explosive player.

Overall they have a slow side with aging players and looking at the Saints team, there arent many players I would have over Wigan players currently, with the exception of maybe Gidley, Graham and Puletua.

...... Note 2 self don't post after a night out......

How to make yourself look stupid in one easy step.

They can complain all they want the conditions was the same for both sides so **** um

Just been looking at the Stains site.... They are flatter than our backs were last season.... I have offered words of condolence.... hehehe

Long way to go yet mate. Wigan always start pretty poor but always get to semis. Im not to worried just yet but admit last night was very very poor.

Im more worried about the injuries we picked up last night and bit shocked at some of potters way of thinking.

Im sure we will be in playoffs and if we have a full bill of health going in tp playoffs we will be a huge threat to leeds and the mighty wigan.

I just don't see Pryce & Eastmond as a half back partnership.
Puletua at 13 was a strange one as really it's best if your 6,7 & 13 are out there for the 80 mins. Puletua is interchaged, that's part of his impact game.

By now I'd have thought Potter would have put Eastmond at 6, Moore at 7 and Pryce wing or centre.
Moore is a playmaker and started his career at 7.
Eastmond is a strike player and that's what he's very good at.
Wilkin should surely be 13. He can do the 80, has a good passing game reasonable kicking game both with short and long field kicks and his tackling is excellent.
Then they would have two playmakers and a strike player working their middle of the field.

At the moment they are struggling and now face Bradford and Catalans both away.

been there before mate!

I'm giving no predictions about this season other than its going to be the most competative yet and I can't wait...

That's just the point mate. Many of us have said that you're an aging team who've hung on to their star players a bit too long. Those are exactly the teams who suffer at the end of the season, both with injuries and a lack of form. Even if you make the playoffs (which you will), if you're doing it from a lower position it will prove too much for you. If you're clinging on to the hope of making a late surge to win trophies I feel fairly safe in saying you're in for a disappointment!

I can't believe how fat Kieron Cunningham is.

He is ridiculously over weight, it's almost disturbing.

It always made me laugh last season when they took the mick out of piggy. They have fat Keiron Cunningham, so they can't call anyone!

It's a strange one is the situation at Stains this season.

They seem 2 have morphed into what we were last year. They have a coach who seems stuck in his ways and won't make the changes needed, the have good attacking HB's but not ones who can direct them round the park and they also seem 2 be poorly conditioned. Remind you of anyone.

With KFC leaving at the end of the year it could be a good chance 4 stains 2 get rid of Potter and start a fresh.