This is ultimately Noble's responsibility at the club.

Dave

Your right, it is, but ultimately is it fair for Noble to take the rap for something that is ultimately Forshaw and his teams job.

Is it fair for a bank managers head to roll simply because the person handing out loans has been making bad decisions? No, but that's what happens. I wouldn't mind a new coach and new back room staff if I'm honest.

Heard he's signed a new 12 month contract, Carmont offered 12 months but wants a 2 year deal, also he kneeds a shoulder op in the close season.

i vote ...NO

we have gone as far as we can with nobby....we are stagnant and need a change...he has had near 4 years and i honestly dont see much improvement

I heard his playing days where pretty much over, and that he would not be offered a new playing contract at Wigan due to his age, and the severity of his injuries!

With regards to Carmont, i could see the benefits of a 2 year contract, still one the best centres in the league for me, I cant think of anyone else who is availiable who is realistic and better.

His age? I thought bailey was still in his twenties?

Geez,,,Wigan will be in a right pickle IF they can win the GF next week.All season they,,well Ian Lenegan has been scouting all over Oz for a new coach,only to find that thier present coach could take them all the way!!!!!.Personally if i were BN i would tell them were to stick it after alll the rumours if i were in a job or not....

To offer anymore than 1yr would be stupid, his body is falling to bits.

He's gone I'm sorry. End of.

BN is rather fortunate Wigan didn't tell him to stick it every time it was announced that he was looking for another job. It's happened more than once during his tenure at Wigan - Leeds, Warrington, Catalan, Aus, etc.

So possibly what goes around comes around.

Still ... you're right about one thing. They will be in a pickle if they don't appoint someone better.

You going Crunch? I can tell you a good meeting place and we can discuss the merits/Failings of Brian Noble?

I would rather ask myself the question why was he looking for other jobs.

Secondly you cannot mess your coach around and leave him not knowing if he is coming or going and not expect him to look at other options.

Lastly do you have any solid proof that he was looking at these other jobs?

I remember Catalan last year and was he not looking @ Leeds because Maurice & Whelan were a nightmare. Now we have a proper chairman, he wants to say, it makes sense to me.

When did he look @ Wire?

I don't see who we can appoint who is better, Wane may be a good long term option, but we are very close under Noble, unless the appointment is world class, surely IL will be proved to have been to hasty?

Do you have any that he wasn't?

You only need a rumour to get around, and no-one to firmly quash it, and the club and fans are going to start wondering.

That's what happened.

Anyway, I'm not getting into this any further. I've expressed my views pretty clearly, I think. Now all I'm interested in is the match.

How do you get solid proof that he WASN'T looking for another job? You want all the Chairmen to stand up and confirm they haven't spoken to him?
When you're coming to the end of a term contract you have absolutely every right to find a deal to suit you, and if your present employer doesn't snap you up, you are bound to look elsewhere.