www.wigantoday.net/warriors/The- ... 5405295.jp The post reckons the end if nigh for Noble but by the sounds of it he'll do until the end of this season which is no suprise. The bit that made me laugh is where it says alot of Wigan fans are becoming increasingly unhappy about the treatment of Noble by Ian Lenagan.............are they taking the p*ss? The vast majority of fans would go and clear his desk for him yesterday if it meant he was leaving

www.wigantoday.net/warriors/The- ... 5405295.jp The post reckons the end if nigh for Noble but by the sounds of it he'll do until the end of this season which is no suprise. The bit that made me laugh is where it says alot of Wigan fans are becoming increasingly unhappy about the treatment of Noble by Ian Lenagan.............are they taking the p*ss? The vast majority of fans would go and clear his desk for him yesterday if it meant he was leaving

Another rumour that is rubbish.

There's no real wider picture than the survival of Wigan RL as a major force. That is what IL is trying to achieve. Brian Noble, I'd guess, would say the same for his own efforts, but thus far he's failed badly, and his other actions - applying for other jobs etc - would suggest that it isn't his priority anyway.

We've still only got your word for it that IL has been going about his business in an incorrect fashion. You seem to be basing every assumption about his character on occasional comments made in the press. Surely you accept that white lies and half-truths occasionally have to be given, along with get-outs, stock answers and all the other usual things that CEOs sometimes find necessary if they don't want to compromise behind-the-scenes activity?

You also seem to be starting from the position that IL is an untrustworthy person whereas BN is telling the absolute whole truth. That's also what you did when Steve McNamara and the Wakey chairman both tried to secure their position at IL's expense. To be honest, Dave, its all getting repetitive, this. You accuse me of always defending IL, but you never seem to miss an opportunity to cast an aspersion on him. At least in my favour he's only a year and a half into the job, and still trying to reform the club in his own image. If he's till achieved nothing two or three years for now, I'll join the chorus of dissent. But you got stuck into him almost straight away. There is a certain breed of Wigan fan who is determined to find fault with everything the club tries to do, and, though I have a lot of time for many of your posts, you do tend to embody that type of thinking.

I'm definitely signing off on this conversation now, because it's tedious and, frankly, unimportant in the greater run of events.

I think people are sick of it being dragged out and IMO Noble has been harshly treated. The situation will become more tricky if we won the CC.

It will, but it shouldn't. This season has been unacceptable and two good performances to win the cup (considering we practically had a bye to the semis) shouldn't mask what has been a very poor season for Wigan RL.

I agree though that Noble has been treated poorly by the fans in particular. I have personally believed that Noble should have gone at the end of last season, but I understood why he had been given another year to try and turn things around. However, some of the criticism he has faced has not been warranted, and he has clearly been in charge of a team not fully comitted to the club at all points this season, and despite our weaknesses having been obvious for three seasons now, he has not been given the prop we so desperately need to really challenge for silverware.

Once Noble has left the club (most likely at the end of the season) and the dust settles as it were, I think most fans will be very thankful for the efforts Brian has put in. He inherited a relegation bound team and has transformed the club in to what has proved to be the third best team in the competition in the previous two years.

He undoubtedly leaves the club in a much better state than when he joined it even if recvnt performances do not support such a claim. However, ultimately, I think it is best for club [iand[/i coach that we part company.

I have a horrible feeling, that we may be hearing another rendition of the 'your not fit to wear the shirt' before the year is out.

It may even come as close as the next home game, which is i think quins.

I really hope this doesnt happen, as that was perhaps the most uncomfortable thing i have ever witnessed as a supporting fan.

Just hope the events of the last couple of weeks make them (the players) pull their socks up, but on past experience, i doubt it!

I'd like to think that the players respect Noble, the club, themselves and the fans enough to give it everything for the remainder of the season, and we can evaluate where we are (or more specifically where we aren't) then.

There appears to be a lot of evidence to the contrary dont you think?

I don't think he's been harshly treated tbh, if anything he's lucky to still be here but he as anybody would deserves to know where he stands. It isn't fair that everybody is being left on an edge not knowing whats going to happen and i don't think the issue is helping anybody at the moment.

I don't see why Lenagan doesn't just come out and say whats happening. If Noble is leaving at the end of 2009 then tell us and tell him. That will simplify Nobles own task which would then be, imo, to put himself in the shop window for a new job by helping Wigan end the season on a high.

If on the other hand Noble is to stay he has to give him a contract now and for more then 1 year. If he's willing to back him it can't just keep being on a year by year basis because that leaves us in this situation every year and leaves the players an excuse to pack up their season each year as soon as they face abit of adversity.

Mr Lenagan has to start making some calls and make them quick. I'm sick to the back teeth of everything taking a fooking age with him

Well said.

I cant believe IL has killed Michael Jackson to get the press away from his treatment of BN. Disgraceful, worst chairman ever.