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Terrible game to watch, but it's great to win the cup. There's no need to defend the game, poo games are played out every year, it's just a shame we both saved it for Wembley. It definitely wasn't lack of effort, just a series of brain farts and the wet weather.

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Quote: jools "Sorry - it was awful to watch from a neutral POV. Close it may have been but that was because hull çouldnt hold the ball and Wigan appeared unable to be creative despite all the possession and field position they had. It was a terrible advert for rugby league- not helped by the commentating. Conditions can't completely excuse it.
Of course Wigan fans wouldn't see it that way- neither would I expect them to as its a completely different kettle of fish when your own team is involved and you have something at stake.But it won't encourage any first timers to watch again- that should concern all league fans'"

Since when have you been a neutral? You have never posted a so called neutral post on here that I have ever read. Your raison d’etre is to slag Wigan, you would have found something to gripe about no matter what! If you really want to see a bad advert for a sport try watching (if you can keep awake) the dark side six nations on the BBC, now that’s real Mogadon. By the way have you been on the Hull board having a go at them? Or as per usual have you just saved it for us. Keep on you are about as effective at causing a stink as a fart in a hurricane, so ramble on.
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It was pants of a game.
I eventually turned it off.

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As a neutral what you want most of all is a competitive game.

At the match i genuinely thought it was competitive, i spent most of the second half waiting for Hull to do something because they had to at some point. I didn't really feel comfortable until about 4 mins to go and only started celebrating when Sam scored. I thought it was a tense and exciting final played in dreadful conditions (there were football games abandoned in the capital).

However, having watch the game at home without the tension, for the neutral it was a poor game, nowhere near as bad as some are suggesting. It must have been incredibly frustrating for the Hull fans. Tactically we got it spot on, for them i thought Miller froze and we forced Holdsworth to make over 30 tackles. Defences were certainly on top, in those conditions they usually are as it's harder to attack therefore easier to defend. There was a Leeds fan in front of me (nice lady BTW), she commented after about 60 how poor the game was, i replied if Hull had taken the 3 easily kickable penalties and it was 8 - 6 instead of 8 nil what would you think then? As a spectacle all it needed was a few points from Hull and you have a very different perspective of the game.

To those of you who come on here and comment how poor it was what reaction do you expect? Save those comments for the VT because if you make them on here then you will be treated as a troll and rightly so.

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Quote: Eastbourne Warrior "As a neutral what you want most of all is a competitive game.

At the match i genuinely thought it was competitive, i spent most of the second half waiting for Hull to do something because they had to at some point. I didn't really feel comfortable until about 4 mins to go and only started celebrating when Sam scored. I thought it was a tense and exciting final played in dreadful conditions (there were football games abandoned in the capital).

However, having watch the game at home without the tension, for the neutral it was a poor game, nowhere near as bad as some are suggesting. It must have been incredibly frustrating for the Hull fans. Tactically we got it spot on, for them i thought Miller froze and we forced Holdsworth to make over 30 tackles. Defences were certainly on top, in those conditions they usually are as it's harder to attack therefore easier to defend. There was a Leeds fan in front of me (nice lady BTW), she commented after about 60 how poor the game was, i replied if Hull had taken the 3 easily kickable penalties and it was 8 - 6 instead of 8 nil what would you think then? As a spectacle all it needed was a few points from Hull and you have a very different perspective of the game.

To those of you who come on here and comment how poor it was what reaction do you expect? Save those comments for the VT because if you make them on here then you will be treated as a troll and rightly so.'"


Some good points, I didn't start celebrating until the very end either as like you say, all it needed was one try from Hull and we would have had a very tense finish on our hands. When the Hull Fullback made that break my heart sank, It was a certain try for me and somehow Charnley made it back, and it was Defensive efforts that made the difference yesterday.


Btw if you haven't had a look on the VT you should take a look, It makes for comical reading!

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I said at the time, the Charnley tackle was the game breaker. If Hull score there, I think they'd have gone on to win. I actually felt some sympathy for the Hull fans, to have such a great cup run and then get nilled in the final, must be a heart breaking feeling.

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We do have a normally very entertaining game, that’s why we love it but being honest how many sports would set out just to entertain first and win second? Sport IMO its win first, end of.
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It might have not been the great game we all would have wanted to see, but I for one only stopped biting my nails when Holdsworth knocked on from Pat’s drop-out. Then I thought, we’ve won this!

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Quote: pies-r-us "We do have a normally very entertaining game, that’s why we love it but being honest how many sports would set out just to entertain first and win second? Sport IMO its win first, end of.

If you take that idea through, you end up with no sport at all.

If you game became a repeat of yesterday on a regular basis, people would understandably switch off killing the sport.

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Quote: Bal "If you take that idea through, you end up with no sport at all.

If you game became a repeat of yesterday on a regular basis, people would understandably switch off killing the sport.'"


Let's take this statement at face value and ask that given that the wet weather determined the quality of the game, how likely is it that televised RL games will regularly be played in heavy rain?

Not going to happen that often is it?

Still, that's the kind of non-point I'd expect from an idiot who described the game as a disgrace to RL on another thread.

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Unless you were down there you couldn't realise just how bad the conditions were. It was heaving down. Wigan played the better wet weather rugby, just as Widnes did the other week v Wire.

BOTH sides defended really well, it's a side of the game that the vast majority of spectators seem to ignore, Harrison Hansen was superb in that facet of his game, how would have got the Lance Todd for me.

Anyway that's Challenge Cup #19 for Wigan, the third time we've nilled a club at Wembley and now become the FIRST town to hold the F.A. Cup and Challenge Cup in the same year.

Not bad for a little town eh!!!

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Unless you were down there you couldn't realise just how bad the conditions were. It was heaving down. Wigan played the better wet weather rugby, just as Widnes did the other week v Wire.'"


Reminded me of the 86 Premiership final v Warrington at Old Trafford when our star studded team got the big stage after missed out on Wembley and having won everything else. Persistent rain and a poor pitch ruined the game and it finished 8-0. Did we care then or now?

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Quote: Bal "If you take that idea through, you end up with no sport at all.

If you game became a repeat of yesterday on a regular basis, people would understandably switch off killing the sport.'"

Name me one sport which relies on money to survive that is only interested in entertainment first and wining second? Even a bad team takes the field with its first intention to win a game. You write about entertainment and survival is every football match great, is the dark side RU, a marvellous spectacle? I’d say most of RL is a much better to watch than these, and I’m sorry that yesterday didn’t come up to your very high standards and demands for sport, but take a look at F1 this aft, I bet that always has you on the edge of your seat! I believe your just trying to devalue a win that was played in not the most favourable of conditions; it’s not typical of the sport.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Unless you were down there you couldn't realise just how bad the conditions were. It was heaving down. Wigan played the better wet weather rugby, just as Widnes did the other week v Wire.

BOTH sides defended really well, it's a side of the game that the vast majority of spectators seem to ignore, Harrison Hansen was superb in that facet of his game, how would have got the Lance Todd for me.

Anyway that's Challenge Cup #19 for Wigan, the third time we've nilled a club at Wembley and now become the FIRST town to hold the F.A. Cup and Challenge Cup in the same year.

Not bad for a little town eh!!!'"

As I said on another thread, the irony is that people would have felt more entertained if the defence on show had been less skillful. For all the game's other faults, both teams performed their defensive sets very well, way above average, but most "fans" will never see that as entertainment.

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I took a friend's son to the final yesterday. Ten years old, never watched rugby league before, born and raised in the south with no real clue of where Wigan or Hull even are. He loved it.

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