Quote: Jack Kerley "Well, first things first. I am a Wigan fan, and have been a season ticket holder for 20 years, and I don't need anyone to represent me, give me a sense of belonging, etc, etc,etc. Even though you state that it is not the sole responsibility of the "Brigantes", whatever they may be, to create an atmosphere, you do intimate that this group are the only ones actually creating any atmosphere that is present. Any chance you can tell me who has been creating atmosphere at Wigan games for the last 30 years? By the way, if the Brigantes are the gang of 12 year olds with a drum in the South Stand, please tell them to shut up, as they aren't helping. Ta.'" Jack where have you been hiding for the past two years. Remember Riddell? You do seem to have problem with the drums and the singers search.php?st=0&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&author_id=41289

Quote: Jack Kerley "Well, first things first. I am a Wigan fan, and have been a season ticket holder for 20 years, and I don't need anyone to represent me, give me a sense of belonging, etc, etc,etc. Even though you state that it is not the sole responsibility of the "Brigantes", whatever they may be, to create an atmosphere, you do intimate that this group are the only ones actually creating any atmosphere that is present. Any chance you can tell me who has been creating atmosphere at Wigan games for the last 30 years? By the way, if the Brigantes are the gang of 12 year olds with a drum in the South Stand, please tell them to shut up, as they aren't helping. Ta.'" Jack where have you been hiding for the past two years. Remember Riddell? You do seem to have problem with the drums and the singers search.php?st=0&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&author_id=41289

What a whopper

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I see the couple of people who went way over the top, throwing accusations and name calling still haven't been man enough to come back and say they were wrong / apologise.

With regard to your comment of 'Any chance you can tell me who has been creating atmosphere at Wigan games for the last 30 years?'
Obviously I can't give you names and addresses, but I presume that the fans you refer to have been creating an atmosphere by making noise rather than standing/sitting in silence - which seems to me is just what the Brigantes are encouraging everyone to do.

As far as I'm aware, from the appearance of the people you are talking about, I would take a stab at them not all being a 'bunch of 12 year olds'. But you could be right - there some bl**dy big 12 year olds knocking about these days.

You also appear to want me to tell fans who sing to shut up. I'm sorry but I won't be able to help you there. If you want them to be quiet - I suggest that you do that yourself at the next home match.

I see you also think that the Brigantes 'aren't helping'. In what way are fans who sing not helping? Not helping with what? Putting the players off with all that noise?

And thanks for letting the fans who sing know that you don't want them to represent you. I'm sure it will be duly noted by all concerned and a real weight off their shoulders.

For the benefit of anyone who has clicked on page 7 of this thread first and hasn't read any of the earlier stuff... don't bother. This is an astonishingly tedious thread. I made the mistake of starting at the beginning and that's 5 minutes of my life I can't get back....

Once again, by falling for the bait we cover ourselves in glory, again. I despair.

Usually, it's right to ignore the bait but when someone (and a mod at that) tries to stir things up by making remarks about hooliganism and Police surveillance of the group then that has to challenged. I don't believe it was a Tongue in cheek post, wink or no wink. The club read these forums after all. In some respects I'm not bothered what some people think about us but suggestions about hooliganism, racism etc need to be challenged. Do you suggest we let such slurs go without any response?

It would have been better to lock the thread straight after Sadfish excellent post on page one.
Just a reminder of what he said.

There's no need to lock anything just because someone has had a sense of humour by-pass. It was established early on what plod were up to as one of the group had talked to them. Just because some are overly sensitive to the word Brigantes being used when it doesn't fit into their agenda is their problem. Being a mod doesn't stop you posting things that might upset the over-sensitive.