FORUMS > Wigan Warriors > Rumours and signings 2010 v4 |
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 1117 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2008 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2012 | Aug 2012 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| Quote: post "If by letting Fielden go we got Ben Cross and Ennis, then I would let him go no problem.'"
If Fielden goes, I don't think I'd replace him (contrary to what I said in the last thread!), but that said, I'd rather he stayed.
I certainly don't want to bring another 2 overseas signings accross.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 1824 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2010 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jun 2013 | Jul 2012 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
47997_1274724262.jpg Ers tha' geet bitter on?:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_47997.jpg |
|
| Quote: Bovrick " Maybe if he can handle it at some point in the season Mossop and Hoffman could swap over?'"
Personally I think that if Fielden left we may see Mossop get promoted to front row before Hoffman. I think Mossop's playing style and skill-set lends itself well to playing prop and Hoffman is a full Aussie international back-rower so I'd prefer to leave him there. Plus Madge, Wane and Bitcon will have a full off-season to bulk mossop up, barring an (unlikely IMO) international call-up. Remember everyone commenting the condition and sheer size of the players coming into this season? I reckon we'll see more of the same this off-season
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 689 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2010 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Apr 2019 | Apr 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
[quote="FlexWheeler":8f22o6ue]The extent of his coaching is ''BASH EM, JUST F*CKING BASH EM. HE'S LOW ON CONFIDENCE, BASH HIM''
He's a limited coach that won't last long term.[/quote:8f22o6ue]
....
[quote="rubber duckie":8f22o6ue]That would make Wigan strong favourites then. With Ratchford at FB and Patton with Cronk in the halves, I think we'll do very well without Sam.[/quote:8f22o6ue]: |
|
| I would personally like to see more of a role for Ben Davies next season. That could mean one prop moving on, or him moving ahead of Prescott or O'Carroll.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 1419 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2008 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2014 | Oct 2014 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
41801_1347868969.png :d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_41801.png |
|
| Quote: dirtbag83 "Personally I think that if Fielden left we may see Mossop get promoted to front row before Hoffman. I think Mossop's playing style and skill-set lends itself well to playing prop and Hoffman is a full Aussie international back-rower so I'd prefer to leave him there. Plus Madge, Wane and Bitcon will have a full off-season to bulk mossop up, barring an (unlikely IMO) international call-up. Remember everyone commenting the condition and sheer size of the players coming into this season? I reckon we'll see more of the same this off-season'"
Either way I really wouldn't mind the two of them playing an ambiguous Second Row/Prop role, but I would probably agree that Mossop would be the better prop. How would you lay it out? Personally it doesn't really make sense for Hansen, Tomkins or Hoffman to start on the bench for me.
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 1419 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2008 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2014 | Oct 2014 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
41801_1347868969.png :d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_41801.png |
|
| Quote: jimlav "I would personally like to see more of a role for Ben Davies next season. That could mean one prop moving on, or him moving ahead of Prescott or O'Carroll.'"
IF Fielden does move on I feel we would need all of them if only for competitions sake, as well as injury cover.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 1583 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2009 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2014 | Sep 2014 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
41943_1280660400.jpg Whatever happened to Billy McGinty's pineapple?
"unless you hit it directly at Paul Wellens, it's several minutes before he'll arrive at the ball." Saddened
"I'm done. Brown out. If LMS, Turner or Walker get in any match day squad i will not be attending from now on in." LFC Saint:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_41943.jpg |
|
| Interesting article in the Observer, quoting Waney as saying the club now research potential overseas signings very carefully. Apparently they (SW, Madge and IL collectively) analyse and take account of the following factors:
What type of character is the player?
What the player is like on the training ground?
Is he tough?
Is he better quality than we have?
Based on the above and reading the report in the Aussie paper - would Ennis fit the above criteria?
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Owner | 20376 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2003 | 21 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2024 | Oct 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
5733_1599791508.jpeg Unofficially the most boring poster on Cherry and White.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_5733.jpeg |
|
| Quote: EastStandFaithful "Interesting article in the Observer, quoting Waney as saying the club now research potential overseas signings very carefully. Apparently they (SW, Madge and IL collectively) analyse and take account of the following factors
50% by the sounds of it.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 5463 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2009 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2016 | Oct 2014 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
45658_1356296105.jpg [color=#FF0000:1fnfdzuc]Wigan vs Leeds finals aggregate score.
Wigan 178 - 64 Leeds
Wigan wins - 6 Leeds wins - 0[/color:1fnfdzuc]
I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass, and I am all out of bubblegum.
Don't you struggle. Don't you fight. Don't you worry, cause it's your turn tonight!
Esse quam videri.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_45658.jpg |
|
| Quote: EastStandFaithful "Interesting article in the Observer, quoting Waney as saying the club now research potential overseas signings very carefully. Apparently they (SW, Madge and IL collectively) analyse and take account of the following factors
Well Ennis is certainly a character on and off the field. He's as tough nails and very confrontational, maybe a little to much for some peoples liking. Plus he's the current NSW 9 so quality wise he's right up there.
He's very much a maverick on the rugby field, so if were we to sign him that's what we'd have to expect.
I'd have him in a flash personally. He'd make next year's already impressive squad even stronger with his presence.
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 602 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Nov 2004 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2014 | Aug 2014 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
10964.gif :10964.gif |
|
| Quote: EastStandFaithful "Interesting article in the Observer, quoting Waney as saying the club now research potential overseas signings very carefully. Apparently they (SW, Madge and IL collectively) analyse and take account of the following factorsProfessional
What the player is like on the training ground? Good Trainer, competitive
Is he tough? Yes
Is he better quality than we have? Yes
Based on the above and reading the report in the Aussie paper - would Ennis fit the above criteria?'"
If we were to sign him, i'd pay his air fare to come over. Quality player, hard, great ball skills, controls the game, good decision maker.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Owner | 20376 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2003 | 21 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2024 | Oct 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
5733_1599791508.jpeg Unofficially the most boring poster on Cherry and White.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_5733.jpeg |
|
| Quote: LovesToSpooge "Well Ennis is certainly a character on and off the field. He's as tough nails and very confrontational, maybe a little to much for some peoples liking. Plus he's the current NSW 9 so quality wise he's right up there.
He's very much a maverick on the rugby field, so if were we to sign him that's what we'd have to expect.
I'd have him in a flash personally. He'd make next year's already impressive squad even stronger with his presence.'"
Given the report about his relationship with team mates and coaches he does not fill the criteria of the current administration, personally I agree though he is an excellent hooker.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 1583 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2009 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2014 | Sep 2014 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
41943_1280660400.jpg Whatever happened to Billy McGinty's pineapple?
"unless you hit it directly at Paul Wellens, it's several minutes before he'll arrive at the ball." Saddened
"I'm done. Brown out. If LMS, Turner or Walker get in any match day squad i will not be attending from now on in." LFC Saint:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_41943.jpg |
|
| Quote: grovelane "If we were to sign him, i'd pay his air fare to come over. Quality player, hard, great ball skills, controls the game, good decision maker.'"
The Aussie paper would suggest that he fails the first 2 Wigan management criteria ie Character of the player and attitude to training.
Maybe the paper is incorrect but from comments from fans it would seem they are on the money.
I dont watch a lot of NRL but do people think he is better/ similar/worse than Piggy?
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 5463 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2009 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2016 | Oct 2014 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
45658_1356296105.jpg [color=#FF0000:1fnfdzuc]Wigan vs Leeds finals aggregate score.
Wigan 178 - 64 Leeds
Wigan wins - 6 Leeds wins - 0[/color:1fnfdzuc]
I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass, and I am all out of bubblegum.
Don't you struggle. Don't you fight. Don't you worry, cause it's your turn tonight!
Esse quam videri.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_45658.jpg |
|
| Quote: jonh "Given the report about his relationship with team mates and coaches he does not fill the criteria of the current administration, personally I agree though he is an excellent hooker.'"
Your right Jon his personality traits don't make him the kind of player I'd expect Lenegan and Madge to sign. But as we all know so many great players in the history of the game have had off-field baggage, and at the end of the day if their able to keep that behind closed doors and get on with playing rugby then I'd by happy to have them.
Finch doesn't really fit the bill either, again being a larger than life character who's flittered from club to club and had his fair share of problems. Then again Madge's knowledge of Finch from his days at Melbourne may have eased his and Lenegan's concerns with signing him.
I'd like to think that in the right environment with the right things expected of him, Ennis could be signed and thrive at Wigan, away from the pressures and expectancy of the Aussie media.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 1824 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2010 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jun 2013 | Jul 2012 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
47997_1274724262.jpg Ers tha' geet bitter on?:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_47997.jpg |
|
| Quote: Bovrick "Either way I really wouldn't mind the two of them playing an ambiguous Second Row/Prop role, but I would probably agree that Mossop would be the better prop. How would you lay it out? Personally it doesn't really make sense for Hansen, Tomkins or Hoffman to start on the bench for me.'"
Yeah it's tough to relegate one of those three to the bench but 2bh I haven't seen a whole lot of Hoffman recently so I know a lot less about him than the other two. His height and weight (6'4" and 17+ stone ) suggest that he'd probably make more of an impact than HH and Joel from the bench, like a Willie Manu or Greg Eastwood style back rower. Madge knows Hoffman as well as anybody though and will know how best to use him
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 9022 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2006 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2010 | Nov 2010 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
26076_1286623377.jpg [color=#000000:1qsyq8gi]Wigan Warriors 2010:[/color:1qsyq8gi]
[color=red:1qsyq8gi]Super League Champions
League Leaders
Under 20's Champions
Club of The Year
Floodlit 9's Winners
Pat Richards: Man Of Steel
Sam Tomkins: Young Player of the Year
Michael Maguire: Coach of the Year[/color:1qsyq8gi]
[quote="Wire_91":1qsyq8gi]its your first final in about 8 years and now you ravin and rantin about it F**k off, and ill be going old trafford tomoz cheering on the saints and ill be writing on this forum givin you loads of shi* when your drying you eyes and the wire fan will be here handing out the tissues in the thousands, thats if you do take that many fans cause now it looks like its your fans who have jumped on the band wagon now your in a final, this time last year there was only 1000 people in the jjb and now its fillin up cause youve won the league hahaha proper true supporters you are[/quote:1qsyq8gi]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_26076.jpg |
|
| Id rather play Hoffman in his usual position at second row we all know what most Aussies are like in their first year over here, The Hoff could only be over here for 1 year if all ends up well with Hock. I wanna get the best out of him and that will be at second row. Its looking likely that we will lose Fielden to Hull so hopefully we can Sign Coley up for another year still for me that leaves us 1 prop short. Someone like LMS would be a good signing for us now especially if Fielden goes:
8-LMS
9-Ennis
10-Coley
11-Hoffman
12-Tomkins
13-O'Loughlin
14-McIlorum
15-Lima
16-Mossop/Prescott
17-Hansen/O'Carroll
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 8134 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2024 | Sep 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| LMS is going to Saints for 2011.
He is the replacement for Graham who will leave for the NRL end of 2011.
|
|
|
|
|
|