Yeah, you're right ...

"Excuse me, Mike, can you just take time off preparing your team for the NRL Grand Final, to pop over to the UK and cast your eye over this possible new recruit for next season? It should only take a couple of weeks. I know you haven't got confirmation of your visa yet, but that's not a major problem is it? I asked RHJ, and he couldn't even tell me what a visa is, so it surely can't matter very much."

By the way, in case you hadn't noticed, he DIDN'T sign Sean Long.

Listen idiot. I call you idiot because you obviously are an idiot.

I have never stated IL is a liar nor have i stated he says one thing to everyone and does another behind the scenes.

Now as i said,show me the proof or button it.

So again you didn't say IL says one thing and then does another?

If that wasn’t what your stupid metaphor was all about then please do tell us what you meant.

Or is it you just look like a fool twice in two days?

Again are you intentionally this slow?

No, that's what you prefer to believe. But I can't really fault you there. You, being the one who knew Ian Lenagan was a bad un the first time you saw him, obviously have a much deeper insight into these basic human truths.

Just out of interest, do you actually know what a visa application involves? And how long it sometimes takes?

Do you even know what a visa is?

Have you ever tried to rush a government department on anything?

Do you even know what a government department is?



Now I'll give you a real truth - you are absolutely cakking yourself that Wigan may appoint Michael McGuire, because it will make your long and boring stand against the chairman seem that little bit more ridiculous.

No i didnt. If i did please quote me on that exact wording or zip up!



I meant just because IL said one thing to you lot at a meeting does not mean he has to stick to it. Wether or not he does decide on who to sign is anybody guess but because IL once told some fans at a meeting that he does not sign the players does not mean we should all sit here and believe it as 100% truth and nor should we think it is an 100% lie. The fact he tried to sign Sean Long and he didnt have a clue who the coach was going to be says that his statement about him not signing players has a question mark hanging over it!

Have i spelled it out easy enough for you this time?

Surely people aren't that suprised Leneghan talked to Long? The new coach now has a much smaller pool of available players to talk too than Leneghan has throughout the season, so he's bound to be keeping an eye out. I'd have been annoyed if I'd found out Leneghan had not talked to any possible signing until Wednesday and in doing so missed out on the ideal player.

The new coach will still be able to make his mark on the personel by his choice of coaching staff, whether he renews Carmont and Bailey's contracts and whether he makes a signing or two. I'd give Carmont another year look for a cheapish half back who can create and kick well. To be honest Long might not have been a bad option, although two years would have been a bit much. If we can get such a player then sign him and let Bailey go, otherwise give Bailey another year too.

Perfectly…………



Reads to me like your saying he says one thing to a group of people to keep them happy and then and goes and does the other thing.

No need to carry this any further.

Maybe he does,maybe he doesnt?



I should think so,since you have failed to show me where i said IL was a liar which was your original statement.

I love your loose application of the word 'fact'.

When IL says something it's either a 'lie' or 'not quite a lie but not quite the truth' (whatever the hell that drivel is supposed to mean). But when Sean Long says something, it's a 'fact'.

Given Long's impressive history of honest dealing, perhaps I should bow to your common sense. After all, you're the guy who knows at first glance what people are really like.

Well he either has or he hasn't which one do you think it is?

Has IL in your opinion said something to the shareholders and then done the complete opposite?

Simple question really but I'm sure you won't answer it

And any defence of IL will result in you spitting your dummy into next month!