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It's just a newer version of the same arguments we've always had. Who's better KFC or Newton, Faz or Scully, Radders or Wellens.
Just to confirm, all three Wigan players were better.
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| Quote: sergeant pepper "It's just a newer version of the same arguments we've always had. Who's better KFC or Newton, Faz or Scully, Radders or Wellens.
Just to confirm, all three Wigan players were better.'"
As much as I loved Tez I think KFC was probably just ahead of him.
2 out of 3 ain’t bad though. |
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| Quote: jonh "As much as I loved Tez I think KFC was probably just ahead of him.
2 out of 3 ain’t bad though.'"
When a Wigan fan says “just ahead” you can be sure KC was a country mile ahead 
Which he quite obviously was. Other two are genuine discussions, KC Vs Newton isn’t even a debate.
Just like Renouf was no Percival. |
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| Quote: FearTheVee "When a Wigan fan says “just ahead” you can be sure KC was a country mile ahead ![]()
Nah, Newton was a far superior to KFC.
One actually wanted to play for GB (when it meant something) Vs KFC faking another injury.
Probably one of the most over hyped players of all time.
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| Quote: NickyKiss "It was last season the Hull game yeah and French has played only a handful of games on the wing this season. I'd be interested to see if Welsby would score loads of trys on that Saints left wing btw. If it's that easy to score from the wing, i'm not sure why Tee Ritson has only 2 trys.
I've said that the stats don't tell you everything, so I agree with that but there is also no way that we can use NRL clubs wanting Welsby more than French or Field as a yardstick either. Who are these clubs that want Welsby? how do we know clubs don't want Field/French? what money are they offering? What is Welsby on now, in comparison to Field/French? None of us know the answers, so that doesn't stack up either.
As you say most people wouldn't swap given the chance but I just can't understand how anybody could be confident enough to say 'Welsby is the best' without having no quantifiable way of backing that up. I'd have him in the top 5 players in the league and probably wouldn't say there is a single player who is out and out the best but I could statistically back up French (and Field) outperforming Welsby this season. The comparison with Field is the most interesting to me, as both play at fullback. If you score comfortably more trys per game (0.74 per game vs 0.4 per game), assist pretty much the same (1 per game vs 1.04 per game) and you are better in defence, I certainly couldn't say you're a lesser player than your opposite number but maybe I'm missing something. I think we could have a different conversation if Welsby moved to what I think is his position at stand off (as pointed out by Jukesays).'"
I’m aware that Welsby isn’t the best defensive fullback, but I must have missed Field becoming one? Pretty much every time I’ve watched him he’s been pretty abysmal in defence on the whole |
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| Quote: The Reaper "I’m aware that Welsby isn’t the best defensive fullback, but I must have missed Field becoming one? Pretty much every time I’ve watched him he’s been pretty abysmal in defence on the whole'"
Like when for example?
(This should be fun). |
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| Quote: Jukesays "Like when for example?
(This should be fun).'"
I am baffled by this one also, every time somebody makes a break i don't even sweat anymore, the first thought through my head and usually out loud is "it's ok, Field will get him". Very rare anybody scores long distance tries against us & he mucks in decently enough when we are on our line aswell. |
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| Quote: The Reaper "I’m aware that Welsby isn’t the best defensive fullback, but I must have missed Field becoming one? Pretty much every time I’ve watched him he’s been pretty abysmal in defence on the whole'"
Could be wrong but I think you're possibly judging Field mostly based on him defending at stand off against Cats at Magic when he was coming back from injury and he really struggled.
His one on one defence at full back has always been pretty decent and off the top of my head I can't think of any games he's been bad in when he's played there. |
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| Quote: FearTheVee "When a Wigan fan says “just ahead” you can be sure KC was a country mile ahead ![]()
Completely disagree. Tez was one of my favourite players but I think KFC had more to his game, just.
Faz and Rads significantly higher lever to Scully and The Slug though. Can’t see how anyone can claim different.
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Agree Wellens (slug) v Rads-no contest
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| Quote: Jukesays "Like when for example?
(This should be fun).'"
hes class as 1 on 1 last man |
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| Quote: Pieman "hes class as 1 on 1 last man'"
Well he did stop and dislodge the ball 1 on 1 against Hurrell 5 mtrs from the our line in last years CC semi,won us the game that stop. |
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Correction 1 mtr from the line
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Can’t quote the Reaper for some reason but he’s definitely missed how good Field has been defensively at FB. Maybe his game at 6 against Catalans is in his mind. At FB Field is fantastic defensively. Obviously his pace makes him pretty impossible to beat from deep but he’s very rarely beaten one on one, even on breaks closer to our line. It’s always surprised me how good he is on that side of his game.
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| Quote: Jukesays "Like when for example?
(This should be fun).'"
You are going to wait a long time for an answer. |
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