Stats beg to differ Saints 6 0 2 45 12
Huddersfield 4 1 3 -24 9
Wigan 4 0 5 21 8
Leeds 3 2 4 2 8
Castleford 3 1 5 -20 7
Warrington 3 0 4 -24 6
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it was a good showing from your fans, stayed right till the end and got your reward.

The context of the games we have won have been important though. We win when we're told we've got no chance yet in games like ours at the DW, the Cas cup game and our two Huddersfield games we've been well beaten after going in to them on a weeks worth of back slapping about how good we are.

The greater the challenge, the more they're written off the better this team seems to play. The most dangerous thing that could happen for other teams leading up to the play offs is that we limp along and start to get written off. If we go in flying that over confidence will probably cost us.

played 2 big games all year and lost them both, I agree with what hes saying last year we were awesome at the start of the year and knew we had lots of improvement. This year I dont see it,

What's that?

I only half agree with you. Wigan's first try was ok. There was no deliberate second movement and momentum carried him over. It was well explained by the expert referee and so you should not have any complaints about that decision.

However I do agree with you that HKR played well in defence and didn't let Wigan get on a roll. The rush defence and closing down our three quarters was good tactics and worked. This was the cause of Wigan's errors. It was disappointing that Wigan did not see what was happening a bit earlier and changed things in attack. They need to learn from this for the play-offs.

nohalfbcks (how very apt your user name is in this post).

We are still searching for a plan B, it as crying out for an half back to put through a little grubber or a little chip over the top to keep the KR defenders from rushing the Wigan outside backs.

League form pretty much means nothing at this time of the year. It doesn't mean much at any time of the year but enough results needs to come to get into a decent playoff position and title challengers will nearly always flex their muscle and go on a run at some point just to show their rivals they're around and mean business. Teams are scheming and plotting for old trafford now.

If you'd taken last years run in, in isolation, it looked like wigan were completly blowing the season.

I think wigan will definitly be at old trafford, but i'm not sure who they will be playing or wther they'll win.

I genuinely can't say who will be at Old Trafford and in all honesty it could be any of the top 6

Strange old year

The table as it would stand if you only considered matches between Saints, Wigan, Huddersfield, Leeds, Warrington and Castleford (the top 6)?

Its a Pie chart

Have hull fc played wigan or rovers yet this season ?

Yeah its been a poor season really with no stand out teams. All of the top clubs of the last few years have been very up and down and none have looked particularly great.

Conversely you could say that more clubs are stepping up & becoming more professional in their attitude. And that the days of runaway performances are in abatement - with P&R back I think we'll go back to the bad old days of routine telephone number scores and the moan will then be about the "usual suspects" at the top of the ladderhas [/ibeen an odd season & there have been some strange games. And as another thread has pointed out, I'm damned if MoS can even be identified yet.

Really? Would it be better if all the top teams were guaranteed a win whenever they took the field?