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| Quote Jimmy Birts Lives On="Jimmy Birts Lives On"I agree. Whilst this news is a massive blow, I'm trying to see if any positives can come from it and I've a feeling that it may signal the beginning of the end of the appaling culture and attitude at Wigan that has seen numerous coaches come & go as they fail to motivate the set of lacklustre fecks.
Hock is what can be considered a senior pro at Wigan. A 'star' of the team. If this is how senior stars behave, what hope is there for instilling a positive culture at the club. Like Rads put it recently, junior members used to come into the team in awe of the senior pros. Shithouse attitude at the top = house attitude at the bottom. Shithouse attitude full stop. This gives the club a bomb proof excuse to crack down hard, stop the rot and weed out the lame dicks who can only be bothered to turn up one week in five.'"
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| Quote ABP'="ABP'"Personally, I can't see Gareth Hock returning to top flight Rugby League again. I don't think he's got the correct mentality, attitude or those around him to help do it.
I can just see him getting banned for two years, getting a labouring job and playing for an NL2 club after the ban for extra income.'"
I'd have to agree with this. I can't help but think that he'll self destruct ala Mike Tyson.
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| Quote andyed-wiganrl="andyed-wiganrl"cant believe the consenus on here for keeping Chock on!! the 'hes made a mistake comment', and 'he'll only go to a rival in 2 yrs why punish us'
Allow hock to come back and what message do you send out to the rest.....?! 'Yeah do drugs, theres only a small chance of getting caught and if you do you'll only be out for 2 years and we'll take you back on?'
The only way the punishment ever bites is that players like hock never play for this great club again! The message that needs to be sent is 'Yes hock may play for a lesser club in 2 years (which as a side point is ludicrous IMO...it should be a lifetime ban)....he might make a comeback with warrington, wakefield, huddersfield, castleford etc. but he will NEVER play for his home town club, the biggest name in RL AGAIN. You can only make the punishment count if hock never wears the cherry and white again!! Maybe then, if he can grow a brain cell, he might just look back in 20 years time and think 'What an idiot i really was'.
Only then will the rest of the team and other players in RL think about taking drugs!'"
The fact that he may go to a rival club doesn't concern me in the slightest but i think there has to be some sort of chance for the lad but only on the grounds that he totally changes his life.
If he isn't willing to be watched like a hawk when his times up and to any other rules Wigan make for him then his time should be up without question.
He should be grovelling to Wigan after this.
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| Quote MattyB="MattyB"Posession is.
Testing positive, doubt it, but unsure
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No.
Possession is as we all know illegal, but the consumption of a drug (cocaine or not) isn't. Hence why if you watch these police shows and they are dealing with people who have taken drugs they are rarely arrested - and if they are 9/10 its under the public order act.
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| Quote 100% Warrior="100% Warrior"No.
Possession is as we all know illegal, but the consumption of a drug (cocaine or not) isn't. Hence why if you watch these police shows and they are dealing with people who have taken drugs they are rarely arrested - and if they are 9/10 its under the public order act.'"
Therefore, is there anything preventing Hock going to the NRL ?
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| Quote kirkamania6="kirkamania6"If you test positive for it then surely at some point you were in possession of it.'"
Can't be proved though can it?
Ie. he could of had some cocaine that was someone else's.
To be charged with possession one would actually have to be caught in possession.
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| Quote MattyB="MattyB"Therefore, is there anything preventing Hock going to the NRL ?'"
He wont get a visa.
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| Quote shooter69="shooter69"i d say 80% HIS doing beek i ve worked on door in ashton for 4 yrs an wigan , irlam an you would nt beleive the amounts an the age of the ppl using coke , an i live in st.helens an drink round there its madness'"
Hardly places containing a genuine sample of the rest of the population though.......unless your looking for a sample of chavs!! It doesnt surprise me that coke levels in those areas are so high........yet 80% is a gross exageration and is laughable
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| Quote wireontour="wireontour"He wont get a visa.'"
 Why not?
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| Quote MattyB="MattyB"Therefore, is there anything preventing Hock going to the NRL ?'"
Will we not retain his registration, preventing him from going anywhere else?
Also does a drug ban not stop you from moving sports. Wasnt Matt Stevens recently told he could not move over to RL.
May be wrong but i thought i heard this.
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| at least he'll have a good male modelling career ahead of him.
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| Quote XBrettKennyX="XBrettKennyX"Here's a summary from another site:
Effects on Performance
The effects of cocaine on performance are minimal and are limited to increasing arousal and alertness with low doses. As the dose increases, detrimental effects such as reduced co-ordination and unwarranted aggression are frequently reported.
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Judging by most of his matches for wigan Hock must have been on shat loads!! 
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