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Quote: sergeant pepper "Was Faz injured, or rested? I've not watched the game back too and haven't heard anything on why he didn't play.'"


Sure Peet said he was injured but there was a possibility he could have been ready to play

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Usually wait until I've had chance to watch it back before commenting but a few thoughts from the match.

Cooper has great go forward. How Wire thought it a good idea to let him go at all, let alone early, I don't know. I'd have sacked Powell first! Glad they did though.

Halsall is ready. Play him.

Conversely Shorrocks is not a hooker and that experiment needs to stop. Even with 3 better hookers sidelined we still had a better one available in Cust. It was chalk and cheese when he went to 9.

Good god, we're an attractive side to watch when we play on the front foot! With 7 players out we still looked a threat from anywhere on the field. The turnaround from last year is incredible.

When other teams make a break from their own half you just know Field is going to get them. Has he missed one of those one on ones yet? I can't remember any.

French is a special talent. I'll be sad to see him go if that is Indeed the case. Absolute joy to watch again this season as he was in 2020. Let's send him out with a GF win!

Marshall is an unsung hero. Never less than 100% attitude and, if 101% was possible he'd find the extra 1% from somewhere.

Great night in hospitality. First time I've done it and I can thoroughly recommend it!

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "I haven't watched the game back yet, did the sky team mention Thornley, Leuluai, Havard, Powell, Farrell, and Bateman all out injured and O'Neill suspended?
Or is it only other teams who are missing players?'"


As they introduced the team just before the players ran out Carney said ‘Wigan have named a really strong team’ although they do have a couple of absences. All the talk was that we shouldn’t have a problem winning the game and were huge favourites but hardly any mention of half a team being out.

I can understand it, we don’t make excuses like some other clubs, so if you don’t moan about it, they’re not going to make a massive issue of it. The lads coming in are doing a fine job. I thought Isa had his best game in a while last night for one.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "I haven't watched the game back yet, did the sky team mention Thornley, Leuluai, Havard, Powell, Farrell, and Bateman all out injured and O'Neill suspended?
Or is it only other teams who are missing players?'"


No they didn't mention it. Not going to though are they, they didnt mention when we played with practically a youth tam for a couple of seasons either. Only Saints have injuries. I feel better for reading Redvee this morning though, one poster has re-iterated that after last night the only way Saints can't win the GF is if 'They lose it' clever bunch over there. The only reason we didn't win it 2 years ago is 'because we lost it' but iv'e known about sport having a winner and a loser since i was about 3 years old. It's a shame on them really, they are still trying to grasp how the wheel works.

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Quote: Pie_Eyter "No they didn't mention it. Not going to though are they, they didnt mention when we played with practically a youth tam for a couple of seasons either. Only Saints have injuries. I feel better for reading Redvee this morning though, one poster has re-iterated that after last night the only way Saints can't win the GF is if 'They lose it' clever bunch over there. The only reason we didn't win it 2 years ago is 'because we lost it' but iv'e known about sport having a winner and a loser since i was about 3 years old. It's a shame on them really, they are still trying to grasp how the wheel works.'"


I visited that site this morn someone of no note stated even if Dodds was missing and if they got Percival and Makinson back they would have no problems beating us, CC semi sprang to mind.

So much delusion and so many excuses come from the Stains collection. icon_lol.gif

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Isa had a good game last night.

Singleton made some good yards too

Both don’t usually get mentioned

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Quote: NickyKiss "Never a try that Wire one. Yet another example of the joke that is sending it up with a decision attached.'"


Listening to him on Sky, he actually gives the try rather than follow the onfield decision. Terrible call.

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Quote: WWste "Isa had a good game last night.

Singleton made some good yards too

Both don’t usually get mentioned'"


I'll agree with Isa, he played well last night. Not sure if he's worth a spot as the 4th choice back row tho? Especially if you factor in us losing Nicholson & McDonnell, as they need more game time.

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Quote: Egg Chasing "Listening to him on Sky, he actually gives the try rather than follow the onfield decision. Terrible call.'"


Didn't see a problem with the try myself. Haven't seen a clear replay of it though.

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Quote: Pie_Eyter "No they didn't mention it. Not going to though are they, they didnt mention when we played with practically a youth tam for a couple of seasons either. Only Saints have injuries. I feel better for reading Redvee this morning though, one poster has re-iterated that after last night the only way Saints can't win the GF is if 'They lose it' clever bunch over there. The only reason we didn't win it 2 years ago is 'because we lost it' but iv'e known about sport having a winner and a loser since i was about 3 years old. It's a shame on them really, they are still trying to grasp how the wheel works.'"

How bias is this Saints fan
I’m not sure it’s solely down to Cooper and Powell ‘not getting on’. Cooper clearly was undermining the dressing room and what they are trying to change beyond this season, this season is clearly gone.
I don’t see why anyone worries about this Wigan team. They have scored over two thirds of their tries from the three players who are yet to be injured, this could easily change as we know first hand with our back three. Then I look through their team and I see nothing their forwards could do that’s ours can’t do twice as well. We don’t win four in a row this season because we lose it, it’s as simple as that. No team in the league is better than us and that includes missing Dodd and Grace. Get a few back from niggles and suspension and we’ll be fine

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Could've sworn French missed the first couple of months, add on he's missed two pre-seasons, he'd probably be on 30 tries already if he'd started the season

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Quote: WWste "Isa had a good game last night.

Singleton made some good yards too

Both don’t usually get mentioned'"


Singleton was great but you have to question where was in 2021 . Look what he's capable of when he runs the ball in with some intensity and drives the legs forward after contact.

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Quote: Ashton Bears "


The thing this season with Stains fans who are blaming injuries etc are really trying to convince themselves that they are still the greatest team ever but in reality they are not the form team as we are and they are envious of the attention Wigan are getting.

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Quote: MadDogg "Didn't see a problem with the try myself. Haven't seen a clear replay of it though.'"


By the current rules of the game it was a try because the ref sent it up as a try and there certainly wasn’t enough evidence to overturn that decision.

In reality, he probably lost control of the ball but there wasn’t a camera angle to show separation. It’s a very close call that will divide opinion.

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Quote: Trainman "By the current rules of the game it was a try because the ref sent it up as a try and there certainly wasn’t enough evidence to overturn that decision.

In reality, he probably lost control of the ball but there wasn’t a camera angle to show separation. It’s a very close call that will divide opinion.'"


I think separation when the ball hits the ground is the key issue. When I speak to my dad about some of these contentious trys he keeps using phrases like control and downward pressure. I don't think either of those really matter in the modern interpretations - if a part of the hand/arm is in contact with the ball upon contact with the ground it will be given (particularly on a VR slow motion replay).

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