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| Quote Wigg'n="Wigg'n"Patrick is really disappointing. He just isn't up to it. His fitness is shocking - he was blowing for tugs after about 15 minutes and subbed off with our starting props after 20. Lockers breezes through 80 minutes at Loose and Bateman was getting through double the amount of work than the what Patrick did last night.
Clubb and Mossop were awesome last night (Clubb has been all season), they could become a formidable front row for us. Although I don't remember Clubb missing 7 tackles...

Also, one I've just remembered - why was Farrell penalised for picking up that ball when Hull had no dummy half? Surely that's just a free ball and anyone can go for it? I thought that rule about reaching around the play the ball was when the dummy half is passing.'"
MT is marker tackles not missed tackles, which is MI.
Farrell wasn't square.
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| Quote Wigg'n="Wigg'n"Patrick is really disappointing. He just isn't up to it. His fitness is shocking - he was blowing for tugs after about 15 minutes and subbed off with our starting props after 20. Lockers breezes through 80 minutes at Loose and Bateman was getting through double the amount of work than the what Patrick did last night.'"
I could understand why Wigan loaned out Greg Burke, because it looked like we had lots of competition for places, but I can't understand why we can guarantee a place in the side for a loan player like Patrick and wouldn't do the same for a young player we already had. At least Burke offers a passing game and is better at that 'pivot' type role than both Patrick and Bateman. Even Jack Hughes could offer more by allowing Bateman or Farrell the chance to play down the middle at 13.
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| Quote Grimmy="Grimmy"MT is marker tackles not missed tackles, which is MI.
Farrell wasn't square.'"
Ah yeah. Cheers.
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| We're not far off, I counted 3 bombed tries in the second half alone. Defence was much better we looked like we were getting more numbers in the tackle. Clubb and Mossop were great. Once we get O'Loughlin and Flower back the pack will be much better. I also thought Bowen, aside from the error for their try, was much brighter and was good at starting our sets. The passes just aren't sticking at the moment and I am intrigued to see how we go at Headingley next week.
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| Blake Green has scored 2 tries this morning for Melbourne. 
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| Quote Wigg'n="Wigg'n"Ah yeah. Cheers.'"
Farrell was square, but you cannot come round the ruck, even if no receiver, it is a little known rule that players and fans fall foul of regularly.....
it think it is a silly rule and if the team with the ball fail to get their act together at the PTB the defence should be able to take advantage
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| Quote Carneys Cover="Carneys Cover"Farrell was square, but you cannot come round the ruck, even if no receiver, it is a little known rule that players and fans fall foul of regularly.....
it think it is a silly rule and if the team with the ball fail to get their act together at the PTB the defence should be able to take advantage'"
Yeah it does seem pretty stupid.
We should exploit it against Leeds by purposely not having a DH and rack up a load of penalties. Although no doubt it'll be a different ref and they would make a different decision...
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| Well I was made up with the win
The discipline which has been shocking, was greatly improved. Only 5 penalties?
Mossops display was very good as was Joel in the first half.
And am I the only one who thought Powell did ok?
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| Quote Cherry.Pie="Cherry.Pie"I could understand why Wigan loaned out Greg Burke, because it looked like we had lots of competition for places, but I can't understand why we can guarantee a place in the side for a loan player like Patrick and wouldn't do the same for a young player we already had. At least Burke offers a passing game and is better at that 'pivot' type role than both Patrick and Bateman. Even Jack Hughes could offer more by allowing Bateman or Farrell the chance to play down the middle at 13.'"
Burke is ideally suited to playing 13 in our system IMO and I'd love to have him in the team now. He would organise that middle far better and get quality ball out to the backline.
He's another Hampshire for me in that I've never understood why he's not been given more opportunities. I was hugely impressed when he first broke in the first team. He played a few games and then got left out for one and that was pretty much that.
With Lockers injury record he should definitely be back with Wigan next year.
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Quote Aboveusonlypie="Aboveusonlypie"Well I was made up with the win
The discipline which has been shocking, was greatly improved. Only 5 penalties?
Mossops display was very good as was Joel in the first half.
And am I the only one who thought Powell did ok?'"
Stats from last night.
Impressive from Tony Clubb.
www.superleague.co.uk/report/11058
We need to start putting the chances away, that game should have been out of sight by 20 points plus in the first half. Then Hull scored early on in the second half and the team (and crowd) got very nervous.
Fair play to Matty Smith I thought he had a much better game last night, but I'm not sure if the Smith - Powell combination is the right one as they are similar players.
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Quote Aboveusonlypie="Aboveusonlypie"Well I was made up with the win
The discipline which has been shocking, was greatly improved. Only 5 penalties?
Mossops display was very good as was Joel in the first half.
And am I the only one who thought Powell did ok?'"
Stats from last night.
Impressive from Tony Clubb.
www.superleague.co.uk/report/11058
We need to start putting the chances away, that game should have been out of sight by 20 points plus in the first half. Then Hull scored early on in the second half and the team (and crowd) got very nervous.
Fair play to Matty Smith I thought he had a much better game last night, but I'm not sure if the Smith - Powell combination is the right one as they are similar players.
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| Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"Fair play to Matty Smith I thought he had a much better game last night, but I'm not sure if the Smith - Powell combination is the right one as they are similar players.'"
That's what concerns me about the pairing too. With both of those players the defence is never going to expect them to take them on because they are always expecting a pass. That's a great opportunity for them to actually take the line on and catch the defence out but neither really looks interested in doing that.
I didn't think Williams was doing a bad job at stand off considering he was playing behind a poor pack. Last night we actually had two props who were causing problems and so it's no surprise that we got a little more out of Smith, but I can't help but wonder whether we'd also have seen more from Williams.
I still think Hampshire and Williams would compliment Smith better than Powell as both can threaten with ball in hand and trouble defences.
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| Quote Carneys Cover="Carneys Cover"Farrell was square, but you cannot come round the ruck, even if no receiver, it is a little known rule that players and fans fall foul of regularly.....
it think it is a silly rule and if the team with the ball fail to get their act together at the PTB the defence should be able to take advantage'"
I would have to see it again but I remember thinking that he wasn't square at the time before the penalty was blown. here is the proper wording of the rule you are referring to, which doesn't apply in yesterday's case because there was no dummy half
Quote Carneys Cover="RFL"Player marking dives on the ball 4. If the player marking the tackled player at the play-the-ball dives behind the tackled player in order to drop on the ball as it is heeled, he is guilty of a voluntary tackle and should be penalised. If there is no acting half back it is permissible for a player to dive behind the tackled player and drop on the ball after it has been heeled provided that, unless tackled, he immediately regains his feet.'"
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