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7007.jpg [quote="Badwanger":3hoggrzp]IMO, Sculthorpe at his peak was better than Hanley was at his.[/quote:3hoggrzp]
[quote="nickmanator":3hoggrzp]billy boston in todays game might pinch a spot bringin the cone on and that bein kind[/quote:3hoggrzp]
[quote="robbierotten":3hoggrzp]Imo Sam Tomkins is a very poor mans Danny Brough he is just a average player getting bigged up by the idiots who comentate on sky.[/quote:3hoggrzp]
[quote="Deano G":3hoggrzp]Jonathan Davies, who is his equal in [Super League] today?[/quote:3hoggrzp]
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| Quote: Ferdy "What is insinuated here then? The ugly face of racism.
I find it quite insulting,'"
Agreed. (Though racism doesn't have an attractive side).
If the poster was suggesting however that the only people in Leeds who work hard and own businesses are immigrants/from ethnic minorities then he may have had a point (though exaggerated) that was wrongly put - the main problem with this country is not with immigrants, who are normally hard working and well educated, but with native Britons, who are far too often ill-educated and idle. Native British scroungers vastly outnumber overseas abusers of this country's welfare system.This would however apply to Wigan and everywhere else in this country, not just Leeds.
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33718_1325770967.jpg Games as big as Grand Finals define individuals and clubs. Remember, we only rent these journeys. In my time I had Pat Richard's shirt. Ellery Hanley had Sean O'Loughlin's jersey. Sam Tomkins is wearing Radders' number one jersey. Andy Coley is wearing Shaun Wayne's jersey. You have to make a mark in these shirts before you hand it down to someone else. Hand it back. So be aware for 80 minutes that you are not only playing, but you are also writing history and creating legacy. How many people actually write history - not many? A big stage demands big players…..INSPIRE YOUR TEAM MATES.
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| Quote: Ferdy "What is insinuated here then? The ugly face of racism.
I find it quite insulting,'"
Deal with it.
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| ahhh, how racism is brought into a perfectly innocent statement
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| Quote: wigan pie man "no they arnt........the ones that arnt are either pigeon breeders, ferret owners, or wanna be country yokels in flat caps and wellies, dragging a whippet along on a lead..........
Now all the above is true but we ain't all farmers!
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| Quote: TheSurgeon "Deal with it.
Shouldn't have to
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| Quote: onedego "ahhh, how racism is brought into a perfectly innocent statement'"
Heard similar sort of statements from EDL, nf etc...
To say only 2000 Leeds population can speak English and the rest are working in kebab shops is not innocent statement at all. You may think it is innocent but most genuine people should see through this
We play and watch rugby you are the better team and deserve to be miles in front of us, but the comments you made above have no place on these boards
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| Quote: Ferdy "Heard similar sort of statements from EDL, nf etc...
To say only 2000 Leeds population can speak English and the rest are working in kebab shops is not innocent statement at all. You may think it is innocent but most genuine people should see through this
We play and watch rugby you are the better team and deserve to be miles in front of us, but the comments you made above have no place on these boards'"
Time to go read up on the difference between racism and stereotype!
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| Quote: onedego "Time to go read up on the difference between racism and stereotype!'"
Can argue all you want your stereotype shows up a inherent racist view.
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| Quote: Ferdy "Can argue all you want your stereotype shows up a inherent racist view.'"
So, saying that a vast majority of the population of Leeds are foreign nationals is racist? Nope, that's a stereotype
Saying that that majority of kebab shops are run by foreign nations is racist? Nope, again that's a sterotype.
Saying that Leeds have a crap, dirty rugby team with a crap, dirty ground, and fans who like to cause a bit of trouble? That's fact mixed with generalisation.
Racism would be saying "there's too many XXXXXXXXXX in this country and they should all die". Which is a statement I do not support.
I won the argument cos "ah doo talk inglish proper lark", Wigan won the game, and Lancashire won the War... wind ter neck in with yer "my doodie dont stink" attitude, an opp it.
Nuff said
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| anyway... one way or another, it would never have been a try. And he proved how shallow he is by celebrating the fact... Was he celebrating cos he genuinely thought he scored? If so, he doesn't know much about the sport... Or was he celebrating because he thought he'd pulled a swift one on daft sod in the middle
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| Quote: onedego "So, saying that a vast majority of the population of Leeds are foreign nationals is racist? Nope, that's a stereotype
Saying that that majority of kebab shops are run by foreign nations is racist? Nope, again that's a sterotype.
Saying that Leeds have a crap, dirty rugby team with a crap, dirty ground, and fans who like to cause a bit of trouble? That's fact mixed with generalisation.
Racism would be saying "there's too many XXXXXXXXXX in this country and they should all die". Which is a statement I do not support.
I won the argument cos "ah doo talk inglish proper lark", Wigan won the game, and Lancashire won the War... wind ter neck in with yer "my doodie dont stink" attitude, an opp it.
Nuff said'"
The point is your stereotypes show who you really are!
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| Quote: onedego "anyway... one way or another, it would never have been a try. And he proved how shallow he is by celebrating the fact... Was he celebrating cos he genuinely thought he scored? If so, he doesn't know much about the sport... Or was he celebrating because he thought he'd pulled a swift one on daft sod in the middle'"
Just curious but do you have the same attitude when mr tomkins celebrates a well acted penalty?
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| Quote: Ferdy "Just curious but do you have the same attitude when mr tomkins celebrates a well acted penalty?'"
Nah, but let's get one thing certain... McGuire showed his true sportsmanship when he took Pat Richards down last year. The team in their entirity showed it by shaking the posts while Pat was lining up to take the penalty... Sam Tomkins has been mostly clean this year, I haven't watched the game back yet, but I'm sure as I am man that Leeds were by far the fithier team last night.
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| Quote: onedego "Nah, but let's get one thing certain... McGuire showed his true sportsmanship when he took Pat Richards down last year. The team in their entirity showed it by shaking the posts while Pat was lining up to take the penalty... Sam Tomkins has been mostly clean this year, I haven't watched the game back yet, but I'm sure as I am man that Leeds were by far the fithier team last night.'"
The top statement is from someone who has never played any sport at the top level. I have and most people would agree if the roles were reversed a Wigan player would have pulled our player down.
The bottom statement I am actually going to agree with you, we were the dirtier team last night.
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| I think we'll leave this thread be but in my opinion i'm not quite sure were any racist comments have been made. It's bugger all to do with the game though!
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