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| That side looks better than the previous two imo, other than the fact our centres are still poor. Saying that, when you don't pick your best two centres you're always going to struggle.
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| Anyone else more up for this game than the aussie one ?
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| Quote: wigan_knight "Anyone else more up for this game than the aussie one ?'"
The Aussies will always be the big game for me
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| Not a bad selection considering the coach is Tony Smith.
Peacock in the 2nd row is a worry. He was the problem in the first 20, nowhere on the right side defence leaving McGuire, Smith and Briscoe exposed and stranded. JP missing gave Inglis the ten yard wide gap he never needed.
Happy with Bridge at 3 as he can beat a man no problem. Fox is faster than anything the Kiwis have. Sam and Kyle at hb is the unknown. Both can be brilliant but I bet the Kiwis will be worried about those two.
Sinfield to start at 13 and go to 9 when Roby is interchanged. Wilkin then to go to 13, which IMO is his best position anyway. Diskin is a big ommision from Smith's squad.
At least Moore and Myler are nowhere as neither are good enough at this level.
I think they'll beat the Kiwis!
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| Quote: jonh "They naturally gravitate towards each other they know each other too well from leeds, the point is though they are not good enough at this level to break teams with the plays that work for them in SL.
You pass to your runner as a hooker regardless of what colour domestic shirt you have, that bond between Sinfield and Mcguire was stifling tge team.'"
Neither was Sam Tomkins against St Helens in the play offs at Super League level, what does that mean Jon?
Was the hooker (a none Leeds player btw) passing to the right more often than the left? the side where Tomkins wasn't, was he in on the "Leeds old boys club" aswell?
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| Quote: jinkin jimmy "Well we've all got what we wanted in Sam starting at 6. It's now essential he starts better than last time out - and I believe he will. However, there's no escaping the fact that he was trapped in the headlights in the first half against the Aussies.
Credit to Smith for making the changes - many of his predecessors wouldn't have done it.
I'm not totally happy with things (Roby?) but it's time to offer unconditional support now!!'"
Roby played 80 mins and tackled his balls off, he was by far the most effective tackler on the pitch, he did more in defence than anyone.... League Express figures state he was our best tackler with 32 tackles, compare to Morley 10 tackles, McGuire 8 tackles, S Briscoe 4 tackles, T Briscoe 2 tackles, Lee Smith 9 tackles, even Tomkins who played well IMO was at only 16 tackles.
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| Quote: LEEDSLEADS. "Neither was Sam Tomkins against St Helens in the play offs at Super League level, what does that mean Jon?'"
Maguire as had chance after chance decent SL level player will never be International.
Losing his place to a Rookie proves that
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| Quote: LEEDSLEADS. "Neither was Sam Tomkins against St Helens in the play offs at Super League level, what does that mean Jon?
Was the hooker (a none Leeds player btw) passing to the right more often than the left? the side where Tomkins wasn't, was he in on the "Leeds old boys club" aswell?'"
It means he was a young kid playing in a beaten team who had an off day.
Given the fact he was named in the SL dream team over McGuire what does that say?
Sinfield was controlling the forwards guiding them round the park ensuring that it went to the side that he favoured.
The fact is Tomkins showed more promise in that one game than McGuire has in his International career apart from 1 England "A" International back in the days of touring Australian sides.
McGuire is a cracking player and will go down as a Leeds great (not legend), Tomkins has the potential to go down as an England legend, something McGuire had when he first hit the scene but quickly showed he lacked the mental strength to realise that potential.
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| Quote: jonh "It means he was a young kid playing in a beaten team who had an off day.
[b]Given the fact he was named in the SL dream team over McGuire what does that say?]
Sinfield was controlling the forwards guiding them round the park ensuring that it went to the side that he favoured.
The fact is Tomkins showed more promise in that one game than McGuire has in his International career apart from 1 England "A" International back in the days of touring Australian sides.
McGuire is a cracking player and will go down as a Leeds great (not legend), Tomkins has the potential to go down as an England legend, something McGuire had when he first hit the scene but quickly showed he lacked the mental strength to realise that potential.'"
It doesn't say much does it? Kevin Penny anyone? McGuire had a great season. The difference is Tomkins is young and wasn't expected to do well, McGuire is expected to do well.
The 2nd paragraph I have highlighted is utter bollo#ks.
Should Sinfield have switched play to pass to Tomkins everytime just to make you happy?
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| Quote: LEEDSLEADS. "
Should Sinfield have owned up and admitted that he isnt close to being an international standard player'"
Yes, i believe he should.
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| Quote: {Hogan} "Yes, i believe he should.'"
Thats very clever editing. I'm impressed.
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| Quote: LEEDSLEADS. "It doesn't say much does it? Kevin Penny anyone? McGuire had a great season. The difference is Tomkins is young and wasn't expected to do well, McGuire is expected to do well.
The 2nd paragraph I have highlighted is utter bollo#ks.
Should Sinfield have switched play to pass to Tomkins everytime just to make you happy?'"
No he should have played a more balanced game.
The fact that you compare Kevin Penny with Sam Tomkins shows a massive ignorance for the game of Rugby League.
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| Quote: LEEDSLEADS. "Thats very clever editing. I'm impressed.'"
you never beat Hogan and his forum editing game
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| Quote: LEEDSLEADS. "Thats very clever editing. I'm impressed.'"
Thank you , i shall teach you one day.
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| Quote: jonh "No he should have played a more balanced game.
The fact that you compare Kevin Penny with Sam Tomkins shows a massive ignorance for the game of Rugby League.'"
I have to admit, im not really sure how Danny gets into the Leeds team half the time never mind the England team.
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