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Quote: Jukesays "We'd have about 17,000 on without any of you and to be honest I could live with it!!!!!!'"


Me too. icon_lol.gif

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with that argument how come you dont fill you ground every week without away fans? madness....

On the ground basis we put 12 million into Whelans pocket for the sale of central park and the debt was wiped clean by Tesco, bit like will happen with Saints. They put money in like we did, tesco do like we did and then some from the board like we did as Whelan had took over.

Dont start an argument on fan basis as Saints can never win the argument as Wigan and Leeds have been front runners for a few years now.

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Quote: pedro17 "with that argument how come you dont fill you ground every week without away fans? madness....

On the ground basis we put 12 million into Whelans pocket for the sale of central park and the debt was wiped clean by Tesco, bit like will happen with Saints. They put money in like we did, tesco do like we did and then some from the board like we did as Whelan had took over.

Dont start an argument on fan basis as Saints can never win the argument as Wigan and Leeds have been front runners for a few years now.'"


Like about 25 years+

Leeds overtook Wigan 7-8 years ago.
Wigan held it from approx 1985 to 2001.
Prior to that Hull FC had the highest average attendances.

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Mr Phil Sephton will be the kind who writes strongly worded letters to his local council every week. People will moan about anything. 20K on the gate is all you need to know.

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Quote: Wigan/Leeds Andy "For a start you need to take off the season tickets holders from both figures as they will have not paid those prices.

Another thing you need to do is compared the attendances against the same teams from last season to see what the true comparison is. When you've tried and failed to get your head around that simple principle, I'll show you the answer and how Wigan actually made money on the discounted ticket prices against Leeds.'"

I dont see how wigan can have made more money. Wigan have around 10k season tickets, Saints around 6k, so the figures are even worse from wigan's point of veiw
10000 x 10 = £100000
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9000 x 16 = £144000
but all that is irrelevant.


Wigan got 20k @ £10, but would have got 17k @ £15 (minus 10k season tickets), so lost very little or made some and brought alot of new supporters to the game, a great idea!

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Quote: Saint Simon "I dont see how wigan can have made more money. Wigan have around 10k season tickets, Saints around 6k, so the figures are even worse from wigan's point of veiw
10000 x 10 a great idea!'"


You have got to realise, for a lot of non wigan fans, no matter what we do fault has to be found!

Its quite sad, but if it makes folk happy then fair enough, personally i cant think of any ocasion that would make me so mad, that I would feel compelled to write a letter to a paper. Especially about a club that wasnt my own!

He is probably one of those "massive saints fans" who only goes to Wigan games and finals, but speaks for the majority, to anyone who will listen!

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Quote: Sharpy_4a "You have got to realise, for a lot of non wigan fans, no matter what we do fault has to be found!

Its quite sad, but if it makes folk happy then fair enough, personally i cant think of any ocasion that would make me so mad, that I would feel compelled to write a letter to a paper. Especially about a club that wasnt my own!

He is probably one of those "massive saints fans" who only goes to Wigan games and finals, but speaks for the majority, to anyone who will listen!'"
After 15 yrs since wigan's dominance was ended, why some fans still have this chip on their shoulder is beyond me?

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Quote: Saint Simon "After 15 yrs since wigan's dominance was ended, why some fans still have this chip on their shoulder is beyond me?'"


I dont have a chip on my shoulder. Just making a point.

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Quote: Saint Simon "After 15 yrs since wigan's dominance was ended, why some fans still have this chip on their shoulder is beyond me?'"


Possibly because many non-Wigan fans chips have got bigger as those 15 years have progressed. You're one of the more enlightened non-Wigan fans who posts on this forum, but there are precious few like you.

That's not self-pity by the way. It's a statement of fact.

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Quote: Saint Simon "I dont see how wigan can have made more money. Wigan have around 10k season tickets, Saints around 6k, so the figures are even worse from wigan's point of veiw
10000 x 10


Like I said you need to compare the same game v the same opponents otherwise you're comparing apple and pears.

Wigan didn't get 20k at £10 because season tickets holders have already paid for their season tickets. The discounted prices only affect those that buy their tickets.

Last season we played Leeds twice at home with an average of about 14,700.

Take off the 10,000 season tickets and Wigan sold 4,700 tickets at an average of about £16 (which will be higher than reality but I'm being conservative) = £72,500 money made from tickets.

The Big v Leeds attendance was 20,200, take off the 10,000 season tickets holders= 10,200 x £10 (again higher than reality but probably not higher than the one above) = £102,000.

So given our previous attendances v Leeds we made money by discounting ticket prices. This doesn't take into account the extra merchandising etc we made as well bring potential new fans to the game.

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Quote: Wigan/Leeds Andy "Like I said you need to compare the same game v the same opponents otherwise you're comparing apple and pears.

Wigan didn't get 20k at £10 because season tickets holders have already paid for their season tickets. The discounted prices only affect those that buy their tickets.

Last season we played Leeds twice at home with an average of about 14,700.

Take off the 10,000 season tickets and Wigan sold 4,700 tickets at an average of about £16 (which will be higher than reality but I'm being conservative) This doesn't take into account the extra merchandising etc we made as well bring potential new fans to the game.'"


And did you see the que for the caravan around the South stand? They must have made a mint that neet. BTW did you know that Wigan RL sell more merchandise in the Wigan Athletic club shop than Wigan Athletic (info courtesy of our CEO) icon_wink.gif icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Owdpopularsider "And did you see the que for the caravan around the South stand? They must have made a mint that neet. BTW did you know that Wigan RL sell more merchandise in the Wigan Athletic club shop than Wigan Athletic (info courtesy of our CEO)
Some of em won't go in because they've started selling Wigan RL stuff. If it carries on there'll only be me who goes in icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Conroy "Some of em won't go in because they've started selling Wigan RL stuff. If it carries on there'll only be me who goes in
Beltin'..!!

Anything to wind owd Dave up..!! icon_lol.gif

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Quote: MattyB "Beltin'..!!

Anything to wind owd Dave up..!!
You have to take into account that the season hasn't started yet. Oh and our new kits are crap.

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Quote: Rilo "Mr Phil Sephton will be the kind who writes strongly worded letters to his local council every week. People will moan about anything. 20K on the gate is all you need to know.'"


You are so right - his letter was also in the League Weekly so he's written to at least 2 papers complaining. Maybe he's offended that any other game could be called the 'Big One' apart from a Saints game???

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