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So he will want to be at Salford next season after 9 players have jumped ship.Hes the hero at the moment next season I dont see it.

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Quote: Cruncher "Assuming that Wigan no longer do mega-deals like this on handshakes and now hold Hastings under contract, and given the club-destroying potential of something going wrong with the Hastings signing, if what you say is true I'd expect IL to demand the kind of transfer fee that would make even the good Doctor Koukash cringe.

Just because people want something to happen doesn't mean it will. Sometimes you have to factor in the possible trouble it would cause for others before you assume they'll just accept it.

I'd also be very surprised if anyone has decided yet that Salford are the future. Getting to the Grand Final is not the same as winning it. If they are humiliated, the picture won't look as rosy.'"


The extra funds are nothing to do with Koukash, I believe.

For what it's worth, I think he'll be a Wigan player next season.

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Quote: FearTheVee "Hardaker doesn't look anything like as dangerous a runner as he used to.

Hastings will be at Wigan next year - the fan base will implode if they allow him a get-out and that's something Lenagan can't afford unless he wants to dip deep into his own pockets again.'"


Hardaker looks to have lost an awful lot of pace to me but then he looks bigger now then he did in his final season at Cas. I’d like to see him shed some bulk and see if it comes back (same goes for Joe Burgess) but if not then a move to centre is a must for me.

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Quote: Blueblood "So he will want to be at Salford next season after 9 players have jumped ship.Hes the hero at the moment next season I dont see it.'"


The players leaving bar Josh Jones (Who's missus is not happy with moving to Hull) and Hastings, the other players are being replaced with better players or weren't offered a contract at Salford because we wanted rid. It's not jumping ship, which infers problems, and we don't have any currently.

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Butcher is nearly right - I feel we will rue the decision to lose Bibby for Sarginson - but the others Griffin & Olpherts to Cas, Tomkins & Johnson - (not fixed up) yet aren`t major problems for me.

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What’s Salford’s fans opinions on Bibby? Looks really promising to me. I think you’ll be surprised with Sarginson though. He’s an absolute workaholic and if Watson can work his magic with him like he’s done with others, then we could see the best Sarginson we’ve ever seen.

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If played @ centre he will be great for you as he parts to the winger at the right time. Has come on a ton this season.

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Quote: Early Bath "If played @ centre he will be great for you as he parts to the winger at the right time. Has come on a ton this season.'"


Good to hear. I noticed he’s playing left centre and we have Gildart already on that side so something will have to give. We’ve definitely signed him to play centre IMO. We already have Marshall, Burgess, Davies, Manfredi and French who can cover the wing spots.

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Quote: NickyKiss "Hardaker looks to have lost an awful lot of pace to me but then he looks bigger now then he did in his final season at Cas. I’d like to see him shed some bulk and see if it comes back (same goes for Joe Burgess) but if not then a move to centre is a must for me.'"


He could have just physically changed as his aged. Put on more size naturally meaning his lost pace, plus he's losing his lovely head of hair.

I think how we've used him plus the changes in his body type have resulted in a lack of breaks/clean runs this season. Still I think he's been great for us. Albeit not in attack, but defensively he's been top notch. His reading of the opposition attack, one on one tackles are as good as it gets.

If not as a FB, I'd have him as a centre or even winger in the Pat Richards mould. Ironically Richards played FB similar to Zak when he spelled there on occasion.

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Quote: Last Son of Wigan "He could have just physically changed as his aged. Put on more size naturally meaning his lost pace, plus he's losing his lovely head of hair.

I think how we've used him plus the changes in his body type have resulted in a lack of breaks/clean runs this season. Still I think he's been great for us. Albeit not in attack, but defensively he's been top notch. His reading of the opposition attack, one on one tackles are as good as it gets.

If not as a FB, I'd have him as a centre or even winger in the Pat Richards mould. Ironically Richards played FB similar to Zak when he spelled there on occasion.'"


I'm sure its not long since Lam described him as a machine. icon_sad.gif
For me he seemed to lose all the weight only to put it all back on over the last few weeks which has coincided with his loss of form.
No lack of effort though as he seems to be trying harder than most of the others.

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Quote: RichieS "You don’t account for a change of heart, there is nothing disloyal about changing your mind and wanting to remain at a club that has done so much for you. Regards Zak, you also don’t account for any personal issues that may not be publicised on “social media” and rightly so. I don’t have a problem with either case of the above turning out negatively for the club as long as it’s done promptly and Wigan have enough chance to rectify things. Last thing we want is to spend 2020 building for 2021.'"

Come on Richie, you regularly make these claims of disgruntled players leaving and they never come to fruition

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Quote: Grimmy "Come on Richie, you regularly make these claims of disgruntled players leaving and they never come to fruition'"


Isn’t this the same bloke who claimed Gelling was staying days before he left?

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I don't doubt that Richie does get some info from reliable sources but its true that a lot of what he gets told doesn't seem to come to fruition.

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Quote: KingRoss11 "Isn’t this the same bloke who claimed Gelling was staying days before he left?'"

Yep, and that Hardaker would be leaving in some sort of swap deal with Cas (which he later recanted). Escare to Toronto. Wane to Leeds. Hastings to Saints or Leeds. Nice guy but unreliable with rumours to say the least.

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Quote: Grimmy "Come on Richie, you regularly make these claims of disgruntled players leaving and they never come to fruition'"


So pleased it’s not just me who’s noticed this. Hardaker left us at least 5 times this season.

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