Moran was painfully bad. You guys must have a short memory. What good is a 7 if all he can do is support? Before anyone mentions Edwards, Edwards could also organise and direct the team. Moran was gash and was rightly criticised for some shocking displays.

Matthew Johns. Many people thought he was living off his brothers reputation but he was a good player in his own right. He was the best long passer of the ball ive ever seen left or right. Newcastle fans were gutted when he left. For some reason he just never settled at Wigan but we did see some glimpses of him putting players through holes. A few years ago Andrew Johns was answering questions on a forum and mine was one of the questions that got picked. I asked him how did he and Matty become such great long passers of the ball. His reply was that when they were young they lived near a train track and would practice by standing on the embankments and passing the ball to each other over the freight trains as they passed.

True, I remember him being a dangerous player for London but Wigan made a poor decision in signing him as a 7, it would be very interesting to get Adrian Lams view on this as he was obviously a big fan of his.

Reading between the lines it can’t of helped given who was coaching the side too.

Tim Smith, off field issues, on field...

Stuart Fielden, Danny Orr, David Vaeliki, Shaun Ainscough, Karl Pryce... not to mention young kids who were touted as world beaters like Mark Flanagan (he was a coup as a youngster from Bradford, IIRC) and James Coyle, who never really kicked on.

I seem to recall people who watched St Pats sagely telling everyone that Logan was going to be the best Tomkins. Iain Thornley was OK but people had much higher expectations of him too.

Quentin Pongia.

he was class until he was forced to leave

I still maintain that under a different set of circumstances Flanagan could've been brilliant. Just think he went to Australia too soon when he was never going to get a game. Came back and drifted but missed a good few years where he should've been playing and developing.

Andy Powell.

Signed from Wales RU and big things were expected but he just never ever got going. Shame really but I think it was a little too late for him to make the move to RL. A few years earlier and he probably would have been good for us. IIRC it was a neck injury that ultimately ended his time at Wigan

Powell would have been a good signing in his mid twenties, Gareth Thomas as well, i met him when he was at the crusaders and was surprised at the size of him and he was very quick

He also brought the best out of Craig Smith, imagine facing those two in the same pack.

totally agree...on both points

Can anyone shed light on the special shout out for Quentin Pongia from the game this afternoon? Did not sound good.

Quote: Levrier "Can anyone shed light on the special shout out for Quentin Pongia from the game this afternoon? Did not sound good.'" Cancer https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/the-mole-q ... fde1c75624 hope he pulls through was a shame the way his career ended (was looking such a good signing at the time)

Quote: Levrier "Can anyone shed light on the special shout out for Quentin Pongia from the game this afternoon? Did not sound good.'" Cancer https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/the-mole-q ... fde1c75624 hope he pulls through was a shame the way his career ended (was looking such a good signing at the time)