Just out of interest how many Trophey’s would be an acceptable return for you?

I'd accept Maguires 3 out of 6

and also the controlled, organised, disciplined, professional behaviour, on and off the pitch.

feka, gleeson?

Both got rid of asap.

Next.

no they didnt, feka stayed, joel was shown the door

So basically you are saying we should win on average either the GF or CC every year otherwise it is an unacceptable return. Arrogant imo. Leeds, Warrington, St Helens, Hull (though not on today’s performance) and to a certain extent cas though they need to challenge regularly to be truly considered amongst the rest can then by your reasoning only have 1 Trophey between them per season.

Given the stature of the club, it’s academy and the ability of the players I would expect to challenge for trophies every year, which to be fair Wane has.

Yep, with the advantages we have had over the last few years we should be winning a trophy every year!

Not arrogant just honest.

Feka was shipped out at the first opportunity, Gleeson was sacked even after costing over 100 Grand that so-called tight Lenners stumped up!!

Joel wasn't sacked, he would have been under Maguire.

He was allowed to find another club asap.

HTH

so they got rid of him and didnt have to do a payout, Feka was given a new 1 year contarct after the assualt so your pretty worng.

At least do your research before you post.

The assault was 3 years before Maguire arrived at the club.

Feka was let go by Maguire due to lack of workload and lazy defence, that was one year after Maguire arrived.

Maguire had nothing to do with a new contract for Feka.

HTH

Mate, I understand some of the points you're trying to make but you're all over the place! 6 is twice as many as 4 (or 5 twice as many as 3), you count LLS for other teams and not for us in THE SAME statistical analysis, you fail to recognise making finals at all and completely ignore a WCC win, which only 1 other SL team has managed in the time period you're discussing. Talk about arguing to convenience! Perhaps you don't realise that deliberately sewing the data to suit your argument actually weakens it...

Anyway, on to the above little gem. You seriously suggest that Wigan should be winning half the available trophies year on year while the rest of the league, including Leeds, Saints, Warrington, Hull and Cas fight for the other half between them? Could you point to another competition where 1 team dominates to this degree? I'm struggling to think of one.

Scottish Premiership.
"It's a grand old team to play for"

You should read the thread.

It was 3 major out of 14

Then someone decided to include the LLS so I went with that and it became

4 out 21.

Under the 3 trophies available if we're using that formula Maguire won 3 out 6

50%

Oh, and yes, if your spending more than anyone else and has the best resources you should be winning something every year.

This ain't the premier league owned by Yanks, Arabs and Russians, it SL.

A pretty poor comp that we pay the best wages in.

Poor return, if you're happy with that, ok, but the thousands that aren't have voted with their wallets and feet.

Who decided to include it?
You decided to add LLS

Again. Wigan aren’t the best resourced or funded club and what makes you think you are paying more in wages than Leeds, Saints, Warrington, Hull, Cas, Huddersfield, Catalans and possibly more clubs?

Yes you have a fantastic academy and youth setup. So do Leeds and Saints at the very least.

The point being this isn’t the early 90’s when Wigan were so far ahead of everyone else. You have close competitors. It’s just daft to assume you should win 50% of the trophies available every year.
A trophy every other year is a good haul and should be applauded.