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Quote: Itchy Arsenal "Nicky do you not think that TT should be starting each game? Ideally we should be getting more minutes out of him.
He gives us go forward virtually every time he takes in the ball and could be a solution to our slow starts to games.
Vastly improved player and I can now understand why the Wakey fans we're singing his praises when we signed him'"


Both TT and FNP gave us a lot of go forward when they came on last night. I'd prefer starting with FPN and leave TT as the impact player off the bench, a role he is playing well this season.

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Quote: Itchy Arsenal "Nicky do you not think that TT should be starting each game? Ideally we should be getting more minutes out of him.
He gives us go forward virtually every time he takes in the ball and could be a solution to our slow starts to games.
Vastly improved player and I can now understand why the Wakey fans we're singing his praises when we signed him'"


I've thought so myself, but I think it's working well with Crosby/Mossop/Flower doing the graft early on then bringing on TT to do some damage. He seems to be a decent ball player though, ready made replacement for Lockers?

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Quote: PurpleCheeseWarrior "I've thought so myself, but I think it's working well with Crosby/Mossop/Flower doing the graft early on then bringing on TT to do some damage. He seems to be a decent ball player though, ready made replacement for Lockers?'"

His sense of urgency and his ability to offload has been very impressive this season.
Not so sure if he could replace SOL however, having TT and SOL in the same team on a regular basis would be a big plus for us.

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Quote: PurpleCheeseWarrior "I don't see what the debate is, it's clearly due to the amount of injuries we've had. I know some of our fans are sick of hearing about it and trying to not use it as an excuse, others just don't want to give our coach a bit of credit for getting results with a battered team, but it's a fact, we've had a ridiculous amount of injuries this season that's hampered our ability to play "attractive" rugby.'"


The debate is that we went stale mid way through last season, I posted after only a few games this season that nothing had changed, that was before any injuries. Teams had us figured out, we needed to change and hadn't at the start of the season and still haven't now. Come the big games, against Wire or Hull, if they are on form we need a huge improvement with the ball or we will lose. That is my concern, I knew we would get to the business end and be in contention, my worry has always been stepping it up and doing something extra special that wins games. Plus I want to be entertained for a majority of the 30 games, not hope we plod through and pray for one good game in the final.

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Quote: stpatricks "I am not bothered what you think, you obviously think I'm referring to you why is that?'"


I don't really care for your opinon and didn't think you were referring to me, i just think your wrong, so i pointed it out.

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Quote: 21-12 "Jog on Muppet? Grow up lad.

To be honest your constant "Shaun" posts full of "emojis" are becoming a little bit tedious now, its not funny and its a little bit embarrassing.

And no, nobody round me was "unhappy" at beating our arch rivals 25-0 at all, in fact, we all had a great time.'"


If your dumb enough to take the 'Your Shaun Wane' jibes seriously that's up to you.

The determined support of Purple Head no matter what result or performance suggests it's either the man himself/family member..coaching staff..etc.

The boos and unrest were audible until George got under the sticks in the final stages and was just the fans showing discontent with the attacking attempts.

However 25-0 over Saints is superb result.

But we don't win big games, we used to win big games.

Why???

We are the best resourced club in the league.

Over to you...

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Quote: Ziggy Stardust "If your dumb enough to take the 'Your Shaun Wane' jibes seriously that's up to you.

The determined support of Purple Head no matter what result or performance suggests it's either the man himself/family member..coaching staff..etc.

The boos and unrest were audible until George got under the sticks in the final stages and was just the fans showing discontent with the attacking attempts.

However 25-0 over Saints is superb result.

But we don't win big games, we used to win big games.

Why???

We are the best resourced club in the league.

Over to you...'"


We dont win big games? We have just made 3 concecutive Grand Finals! As far as im aware, that would mean winning 3 play off semi finals.....

There was no booing and unrest what so ever, why would there be? It had rained all day and both teams turned a lot of ball over, so what? Granted, our attack wasnt superb second half, but in the first I thought we looked dangerous and opened Saints up quite a few times.

Insulting your own teams coach by calling him "purple head" suggests you either have an agenda, or your a 12 year old.

Maybe, just maybe the "continued support" is because he is Wigans coach, and we are WIGAN SUPPORTERS. Mind blowing stuff eh?

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Quote: Itchy Arsenal "Nicky do you not think that TT should be starting each game? Ideally we should be getting more minutes out of him.
He gives us go forward virtually every time he takes in the ball and could be a solution to our slow starts to games.
Vastly improved player and I can now understand why the Wakey fans we're singing his praises when we signed him'"


It's certainly an option. I heard one of the players in an interview on Wigan TV saying Tony Clubb is back for the Widnes game which adds another impact option.

If Lockers keeps missing games I'd consider Tautai or Nuuausala starting at 13 I think(or at Prop with Flower at 13). As much as Isa is a willing grafter he just lacks that natural size to trouble teams.

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Clubb was speaking in the South Stand bar before the game v Saints and confirmed he's had the all clear to play. He said he expects to play against Widnes. Mossop also spoke and said he'd rolled an ankle in training but expected to be back for Widnes. That just leaves Mickey and Dom Manfredi really so starting to look healthier that we have all season.

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Quote: Bigredwarrior "Clubb was speaking in the South Stand bar before the game v Saints and confirmed he's had the all clear to play. He said he expects to play against Widnes. Mossop also spoke and said he'd rolled an ankle in training but expected to be back for Widnes. That just leaves Mickey and Dom Manfredi really so starting to look healthier that we have all season.'"


only MickyMac really, as Joel and Dom are out for the season

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Quote: NickyKiss "It's certainly an option. I heard one of the players in an interview on Wigan TV saying Tony Clubb is back for the Widnes game which adds another impact option.

If Lockers keeps missing games I'd consider Tautai or Nuuausala starting at 13 I think(or at Prop with Flower at 13). As much as Isa is a willing grafter he just lacks that natural size to trouble teams.'"

I agree about Isa but he seems to be an automatic choice even though we have got numbers back.
I thought playing Flower at 13 as per a couple of years ago seemed to work well at the time and for me not a bad option if we have Bateman and Farrell in the second row and SOL isn't available.

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Quote: Ziggy Stardust "I don't really care for your opinon and didn't think you were referring to me, i just think your wrong, so i pointed it out.'"


We all have opinions, you struggle to differentiate between opinion and fact. You offer poorly constructed criticism and then have trouble with anyone disagreeing

In this one topic All you do is target poor aspects of the performance and they all seem to be the coaches fault.
The plus points you offer, well you the say the team are defending well and give good effort. And you do not think to credit the coach for the defensive patterns and instilling a will to win in the team.

Not a balanced view is it?

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Quote: 21-12 "We dont win big games? We have just made 3 concecutive Grand Finals! As far as im aware, that would mean winning 3 play off semi finals.....

There was no booing and unrest what so ever, why would there be? It had rained all day and both teams turned a lot of ball over, so what? Granted, our attack wasnt superb second half, but in the first I thought we looked dangerous and opened Saints up quite a few times.

Insulting your own teams coach by calling him "purple head" suggests you either have an agenda, or your a 12 year old.

Maybe, just maybe the "continued support" is because he is Wigans coach, and we are WIGAN SUPPORTERS. Mind blowing stuff eh?'"


Big Games are Finals...not Semi Finals....

Purple Head was aimed at another poster not our head coach, obviously went over your head...

Iv'e supported Shaun for the first few years in the top job at Wigan in my posts, if you can be d it's all free to see in my posts just go back a while.

Agenda..i have no agenda..i have no benefit if Shaun is or isn't the head coach.

It's all got stale, we don't win big games, we don't win cups or titles.

Shaun is Wigan to the bone, but is that enough..

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Quote: stpatricks "We all have opinions, you struggle to differentiate between opinion and fact. You offer poorly constructed criticism and then have trouble with anyone disagreeing

In this one topic All you do is target poor aspects of the performance and they all seem to be the coaches fault.
The plus points you offer, well you the say the team are defending well and give good effort. And you do not think to credit the coach for the defensive patterns and instilling a will to win in the team.

Not a balanced view is it?'"


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Like yours is.. icon_wave.gif

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Quote: Ziggy Stardust "Big Games are Finals...not Semi Finals....

Purple Head was aimed at another poster not our head coach, obviously went over your head...

Iv'e supported Shaun for the first few years in the top job at Wigan in my posts, if you can be d it's all free to see in my posts just go back a while.

Agenda..i have no agenda..i have no benefit if Shaun is or isn't the head coach.

It's all got stale, we don't win big games, we don't win cups or titles.

Shaun is Wigan to the bone, but is that enough..'"


Semi Finals arent big games?


We'll leave it at that.

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