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Quote: pies-r-us "Thanks for proving my point, most people know that the play offs for the GF and the so called champions is a farce (even if Wigan were to win it this time) so proves little. I bet you think you are really world club champions too don’t you? On the wrong side of the hill they once had a football peacock that loss all its feathers too.

And why are they not the World Club Champions or Super League Champions? Like it or not they won the games required to be called said names. If a team finishes 6th in the Championship and wins the playoffs to be promoted are they unable to call themselves a Premier League team because they didnt finish 3rd?

The system might be crap or flawed or a joke, whatever....but the facts are that Leeds are the Champions and they are also the World Club Champions.

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Quote: Conroy "And why are they not the World Club Champions or Super League Champions? Like it or not they won the games required to be called said names. If a team finishes 6th in the Championship and wins the playoffs to be promoted are they unable to call themselves a Premier League team because they didnt finish 3rd?

The system might be crap or flawed or a joke, whatever....but the facts are that Leeds are the Champions and they are also the World Club Champions.'"



The point is not what they are called, they are facts, what is a matter of opinion is whether or not they deserve to be called such! Many a piece of human sh*te have been touched on the shoulders with a sword by the queen, but don’t expect me to call them sir. It’s a case of what is, and what’s right. Just an opinion.

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Quote: pies-r-us "The point is not what they are called, they are facts, what is a matter of opinion is whether or not they deserve to be called such! Many a piece of human sh*te have been touched on the shoulders with a sword by the queen, but don’t expect me to call them sir. It’s a case of what is, and what’s right. Just an opinion.'"


opinions are like @rseholes we all have them but it doesnt make it right to shove them in peoples faces icon_smile.gif

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Quote: DoubleAone "opinions are like @rseholes we all have them but it doesnt make it right to shove them in peoples faces
The old ones are still the best, and how could anyone argue with someone with such an obvious vast knowledge of the human rectum?

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Quote: zakooo "if i had spelt it right it might should read McCHEAT'"


He isn't as bad as your making him out though, certainly no worse than tomkins. I wouldn't call either of them cheats, they are both the same and just want to win, sometimes both step over the line.

Danny is actually a really decent bloke, some are too blinkered to see it. Same goes for Sam as well.

I will be attending and hope its a enjoyable game. I am quietly confident that we have the ability to win. But it will be a big challenge, as long as we play well regardless of the result, cannot ask for any more

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Quote: Ferdy "He isn't as bad as your making him out though, certainly no worse than tomkins. I wouldn't call either of them cheats, they are both the same and just want to win, sometimes both step over the line.

Danny is actually a really decent bloke, some are too blinkered to see it. Same goes for Sam as well.

I will be attending and hope its a enjoyable game. I am quietly confident that we have the ability to win. But it will be a big challenge, as long as we play well regardless of the result, cannot ask for any more'"



Agreed young Sam is a great talent and a natural RL player with potential to be one of the best. He has at times over stepped the mark but havent we all.

To quote a Wigan and Leeds Great "if you aint cheating you aint trying"

Looking forward to the game, and if McD plays Ward at 6, to seeing how he copes.

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Quote: DoubleAone "To quote a Wigan and Leeds Great "if you aint cheating you aint trying".'"



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Leeds are the current Sky Sports Grand Final Winners, Wigan are the real Super League Champions as where Warrington Last year

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Quote: Conroy "And why are they not the World Club Champions or Super League Champions? Like it or not they won the games required to be called said names. If a team finishes 6th in the Championship and wins the playoffs to be promoted are they unable to call themselves a Premier League team because they didnt finish 3rd?

The system might be crap or flawed or a joke, whatever....but the facts are that Leeds are the Champions and they are also the World Club Champions.'"




I agree (agreeing with Conroy, God my standards are slipping icon_wink.gif ), at the start of the season we all know the criteria to become 'Champions', Leeds met them last time, we hope to this year.

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Barrie McDermott.

I am sure others Have said it as well though

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I agree (agreeing with Conroy, '"


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I agree (agreeing with Conroy, God my standards are slipping ), at the start of the season we all know the criteria to become 'Champions', Leeds met them last time, we hope to this year.'"



Most sensible post on here. We will wait and see if Wigan win the final (If they get to it) and walk past the cup, and if this board does not put 2012 Superleague champions on its banner.
To become champions you have to finish in the top 8 and get a bit of luck of the draw, a few good calls, and make it to the final game and win... it's as simple as that!

Yes, the overall champion should be the team who finishes first, but they aren't.
Yes, All referees should have good games, But they don't.
Yes, the judicary panel should make the right calls all the time, but they don't.
And yes, you should all stop moaning about what might be and what won't be and what should be... but you won't

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Quote: 4 Senior 4 "Most sensible post on here. We will wait and see if Wigan win the final (If they get to it) and walk past the cup, and if this board does not put 2012 Superleague champions on its banner.
To become champions you have to finish in the top 8 and get a bit of luck of the draw, a few good calls, and make it to the final game and win... it's as simple as that!

Yes, the overall champion should be the team who finishes first, but they aren't.
Yes, All referees should have good games, But they don't.
Yes, the judicary panel should make the right calls all the time, but they don't.
And yes, you should all stop moaning about what might be and what won't be and what should be... but you won't'"


Yes, the judicary panel should make the right calls all the time, but they don't.

Referees could make a mistake they make a decision from an angle with under a second to see it an make their minds on it. They do get it wrong quite often but most referees get a lot more right than wrong. When you only get 1 shot at seeing something then you can make the wrong decision thats human nature. But the panel can watch it 100's of times get reports from players, ref, touch judges etc and then evaluate it over a minimum of 24-36 hours before it goes to a disciplinary. For them to get it wrong is shocking especially on a player who had a ban this season.

The panel for me is the most corrupt and influenced part of the game. They should never get it wrong everyone can see that McGuire should have had a 2 match given that he already served a suspension and pleaded not guilty to an obvious guilty charge. His record is not that fantastic and is one of the players banned this season. That should have been used as well and he should have served 2 games. If that was Burrows or anyother player not on a ban this season fair enough but previous history must be looked at as well. They did with MM but not with others. An obvious sign for me that either they are corrupt or have no idea of whats going on.

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Quote: tank123 "Yes, the judicary panel should make the right calls all the time, but they don't.

Referees could make a mistake they make a decision from an angle with under a second to see it an make their minds on it. They do get it wrong quite often but most referees get a lot more right than wrong. When you only get 1 shot at seeing something then you can make the wrong decision thats human nature. But the panel can watch it 100's of times get reports from players, ref, touch judges etc and then evaluate it over a minimum of 24-36 hours before it goes to a disciplinary. For them to get it wrong is shocking especially on a player who had a ban this season.

The panel for me is the most corrupt and influenced part of the game. They should never get it wrong everyone can see that McGuire should have had a 2 match given that he already served a suspension and pleaded not guilty to an obvious guilty charge. His record is not that fantastic and is one of the players banned this season. That should have been used as well and he should have served 2 games. If that was Burrows or anyother player not on a ban this season fair enough but previous history must be looked at as well. They did with MM but not with others. An obvious sign for me that either they are corrupt or have no idea of whats going on.'"



I do agree with you, but we get back on topic again and look at all previous situations where there has been blatent disregard for many offences, Being a Leeds fan I will bring up Ablett being punched in the CC Final? not a sending off offence, but a bannable one.

McGuire would of got a two game ban, IF Wane and Tomkins kept shut. A Corrupt panel doesn't like been told what they should do. McGuire WILL get a two game ban if he appeals. The panel are not more lenient on any certain team, they just don't have a system, everything now seems to be a grade B offence, so surely the punishment should be the same for a same grade offence.. The problem is they don't have a system.

And referees do have more than 1 shot, hence having lines men and a third referee, they just don't utilize each other.

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